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		<title>By: Jarno Virtanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarno Virtanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks for tips.

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the &quot;all-in&quot; mode you describe, but few players tend go wild with a middle/bottom pairs and capping with every round only ending up losing to a stronger hand. If they had stopped a bit earlier, they would have noticed that they&#039;re already beaten. 

But sit&#039;n&#039;gos are fun just because of that: you have to get strong reads on the opponents and adjust them as the tournament advances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks for tips.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the &#8220;all-in&#8221; mode you describe, but few players tend go wild with a middle/bottom pairs and capping with every round only ending up losing to a stronger hand. If they had stopped a bit earlier, they would have noticed that they&#8217;re already beaten. </p>
<p>But sit&#8217;n'gos are fun just because of that: you have to get strong reads on the opponents and adjust them as the tournament advances.</p>
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		<title>By: Kata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last idea, in a lot of small stakes limit tourneys, a crippled small stack might essentially give up on winning the tourney and go into &quot;all-in&quot; mode, automatically betting/raising with anything.  Be on the look out for this and if you have a very good hand/draw use these players to trap your opponents for a lot of chips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last idea, in a lot of small stakes limit tourneys, a crippled small stack might essentially give up on winning the tourney and go into &#8220;all-in&#8221; mode, automatically betting/raising with anything.  Be on the look out for this and if you have a very good hand/draw use these players to trap your opponents for a lot of chips.</p>
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		<title>By: Kata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more ideas:

As the blinds get really big relative to the stack sizes, &quot;rope a dope&quot; strategies (letting the aggressive player keep betting into you thinking you are on a draw/weak hand) can accumulate a pretty sizable pot.

Blind steals can be pretty effective vs. weak mid-low stacks, but be careful about trying to steal blinds from aggressive defensive tricky players.  A couple of unsuccessful blind steal attempts can quickly dwindle your stack in the later stages of a sit&#039;n&#039;go.

Keep notes on all the players and be willing to change gears depending on your stack size relative to other players at the table.  You don&#039;t want to take to many chances with a smallish stack that can&#039;t afford it.  If you do, you&#039;re too likely to get crippled and blinded out of the tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more ideas:</p>
<p>As the blinds get really big relative to the stack sizes, &#8220;rope a dope&#8221; strategies (letting the aggressive player keep betting into you thinking you are on a draw/weak hand) can accumulate a pretty sizable pot.</p>
<p>Blind steals can be pretty effective vs. weak mid-low stacks, but be careful about trying to steal blinds from aggressive defensive tricky players.  A couple of unsuccessful blind steal attempts can quickly dwindle your stack in the later stages of a sit&#8217;n'go.</p>
<p>Keep notes on all the players and be willing to change gears depending on your stack size relative to other players at the table.  You don&#8217;t want to take to many chances with a smallish stack that can&#8217;t afford it.  If you do, you&#8217;re too likely to get crippled and blinded out of the tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: Kata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limit sit&#039;n&#039;gos can be pretty fun. I usually start off playing pretty tight aggressive, basically just like I would in a normal ring game, just trying to accumulate a good chip lead over my opponents.

The &quot;fold equity&quot; concept still applies here I think.

Try and figure out who the weaker players are and try to isolate them as often as possible.

As the blinds go up relative to the stack sizes, I think creative plays become more important, especially bluffs and semi-bluffs against the mid-low stacks.  Try to put them in situations where calling down would cripple their stack size.

As the table gets more short-handed you need to get more aggressive, and limp trapping with big pair hands tends to be pretty powerful.  

I&#039;m definitely no pro, but these would be some of the strategies I would probably employ in limit sit&#039;n&#039;gos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limit sit&#8217;n'gos can be pretty fun. I usually start off playing pretty tight aggressive, basically just like I would in a normal ring game, just trying to accumulate a good chip lead over my opponents.</p>
<p>The &#8220;fold equity&#8221; concept still applies here I think.</p>
<p>Try and figure out who the weaker players are and try to isolate them as often as possible.</p>
<p>As the blinds go up relative to the stack sizes, I think creative plays become more important, especially bluffs and semi-bluffs against the mid-low stacks.  Try to put them in situations where calling down would cripple their stack size.</p>
<p>As the table gets more short-handed you need to get more aggressive, and limp trapping with big pair hands tends to be pretty powerful.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely no pro, but these would be some of the strategies I would probably employ in limit sit&#8217;n'gos.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should I calculate combined odds of hitting my outs on the turn and river OR just the odds of hitting my outs on the turn alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should I calculate combined odds of hitting my outs on the turn and river OR just the odds of hitting my outs on the turn alone?</p>
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		<title>By: Jarno Virtanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarno Virtanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve played a couple of fixed limit sit&#039;n&#039;go tournaments. I did manage to get to money places in my first and was close on the second, but I really did feel a bit confused. It was a nice exercise in limit skills, though, because the limits went up and everyone&#039;s style shifted from tight to loose and passive to aggressive. You really did have to adjust your game all the time. Also, they&#039;re much more exciting than the usual full table ring game. 

I wondered if anyone here had any good tips and strategies for fixed limit sit&#039;n&#039;go tournaments?

I&#039;ve bought Ed&#039;s Getting Started in Hold&#039;em and read its sit&#039;n&#039;go section, but it&#039;s mostly about no-limit. I think some of it applies to fixed limit sit&#039;n&#039;gos, but there must be big differences in strategies of fixed limit vs. no-limit sit&#039;n&#039;go tournaments.

There&#039;s, I think, an similar thing in fixed limit tournaments of the all-in rage in no-limit. It seems that, once in a while, couple of players put their finger on the raise button and don&#039;t take it off until the pot is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve played a couple of fixed limit sit&#8217;n'go tournaments. I did manage to get to money places in my first and was close on the second, but I really did feel a bit confused. It was a nice exercise in limit skills, though, because the limits went up and everyone&#8217;s style shifted from tight to loose and passive to aggressive. You really did have to adjust your game all the time. Also, they&#8217;re much more exciting than the usual full table ring game. </p>
<p>I wondered if anyone here had any good tips and strategies for fixed limit sit&#8217;n'go tournaments?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve bought Ed&#8217;s Getting Started in Hold&#8217;em and read its sit&#8217;n'go section, but it&#8217;s mostly about no-limit. I think some of it applies to fixed limit sit&#8217;n'gos, but there must be big differences in strategies of fixed limit vs. no-limit sit&#8217;n'go tournaments.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s, I think, an similar thing in fixed limit tournaments of the all-in rage in no-limit. It seems that, once in a while, couple of players put their finger on the raise button and don&#8217;t take it off until the pot is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shrike,

That&#039;s fine if you like to make one cold-call a session to keep things fun. But it&#039;s definitely not a &quot;good&quot; cold-call. It&#039;s a pretty clear fold, especially from two off the button. On the button it&#039;s closer to being ok.

On the turn, I think your 3-bet is very reckless. A turn check-raise on a 4-flush board is more likely than not to be the nuts. And if it&#039;s not the nuts, then your opponent is essentially drawing dead, so 3-betting doesn&#039;t help you that much. If your opponent is bluffing, he&#039;ll probably just fold to your 3-bet, whereas if you just called, he might try to fire another barrel on the river. So 3-betting might actually cost you a bet if you&#039;re ahead. You&#039;re essentially hoping your opponent has precisely the T :club: and won&#039;t be able to let it go. But I think you&#039;ll find very few players would checkraise the turn with just the T :club: in that situation. It&#039;s either the K :club: (most likely), or it&#039;s a bluff or some other wacky hand. The &quot;in-between&quot; hands will tend just to call down.

Honestly, I think you can fold after getting 4-bet on the turn, despite your one out. You are 99% facing the K :club: at that point.

Finally, congrats on sucking out. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shrike,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine if you like to make one cold-call a session to keep things fun. But it&#8217;s definitely not a &#8220;good&#8221; cold-call. It&#8217;s a pretty clear fold, especially from two off the button. On the button it&#8217;s closer to being ok.</p>
<p>On the turn, I think your 3-bet is very reckless. A turn check-raise on a 4-flush board is more likely than not to be the nuts. And if it&#8217;s not the nuts, then your opponent is essentially drawing dead, so 3-betting doesn&#8217;t help you that much. If your opponent is bluffing, he&#8217;ll probably just fold to your 3-bet, whereas if you just called, he might try to fire another barrel on the river. So 3-betting might actually cost you a bet if you&#8217;re ahead. You&#8217;re essentially hoping your opponent has precisely the T <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_club.gif' alt=':club:' class='wp-smiley' />  and won&#8217;t be able to let it go. But I think you&#8217;ll find very few players would checkraise the turn with just the T <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_club.gif' alt=':club:' class='wp-smiley' />  in that situation. It&#8217;s either the K <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_club.gif' alt=':club:' class='wp-smiley' />  (most likely), or it&#8217;s a bluff or some other wacky hand. The &#8220;in-between&#8221; hands will tend just to call down.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think you can fold after getting 4-bet on the turn, despite your one out. You are 99% facing the K <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_club.gif' alt=':club:' class='wp-smiley' />  at that point.</p>
<p>Finally, congrats on sucking out. <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree my cold call was questionable; I have a rule of thumb to allow myself one such cold call per session with a speculative hand that I want to play if I think the circumstances warrant it. (At this table I had observed that early raises were being made with a wide range of hands)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree my cold call was questionable; I have a rule of thumb to allow myself one such cold call per session with a speculative hand that I want to play if I think the circumstances warrant it. (At this table I had observed that early raises were being made with a wide range of hands)</p>
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		<title>By: jamleeco</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamleeco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shrike, In a limit game in this posistion with a raise in front of me I fold this hand everytime. 

I would call in lp in a nl game if there was no raise or raise in lp as a semi-bluff ( in unraised pot).

And I would play it in the blinds in various scenarios. I would maybe and try and steal the blinds in limit if they were weak and folded 2 much...otherwise, muck it. After entering the pot the rest of the hand looked fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shrike, In a limit game in this posistion with a raise in front of me I fold this hand everytime. </p>
<p>I would call in lp in a nl game if there was no raise or raise in lp as a semi-bluff ( in unraised pot).</p>
<p>And I would play it in the blinds in various scenarios. I would maybe and try and steal the blinds in limit if they were weak and folded 2 much&#8230;otherwise, muck it. After entering the pot the rest of the hand looked fine.</p>
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		<title>By: JJS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shrike - I&#039;m going to hazard a guess here that Ed will agree with your line of play after the flop.  The only card villain can have, even on the turn, which can beat you is K of clubs.  Sure he is pushing hard, but he could be doing that with AA, QQ, AK, AQ, or even Qx, all of which you can beat.

The only question I have is regarding your cold-calling pre-flop with J9s.  This is a no-no if I understand Ed&#039;s SSHE correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shrike &#8211; I&#8217;m going to hazard a guess here that Ed will agree with your line of play after the flop.  The only card villain can have, even on the turn, which can beat you is K of clubs.  Sure he is pushing hard, but he could be doing that with AA, QQ, AK, AQ, or even Qx, all of which you can beat.</p>
<p>The only question I have is regarding your cold-calling pre-flop with J9s.  This is a no-no if I understand Ed&#8217;s SSHE correctly.</p>
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