Comments on: Q&A #99: Taking A Free Card On The Turn, Or Giving It? http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html Training poker players into professional players Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:32:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ed Miller http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12153 Ed Miller Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:11:54 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12153 Ad-man, The hero posted a late position blind which alters preflop play considerably. Check out <a href="http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/posting-behind-the-button-part-1-of-2.html" rel="nofollow">an article I wrote about it</a> a while ago. Commerce games used to always be quite loose, with 4-6 seeing most flops (for multiple bets often) in the $40-$80 game. It appears that hasn't changed much in the two years or so since I last played there. I like calling rather than 3-betting, but I think the 3-bet is ok so long as the initial raiser and the cold-caller are very loose. Ad-man,

The hero posted a late position blind which alters preflop play considerably. Check out an article I wrote about it a while ago.

Commerce games used to always be quite loose, with 4-6 seeing most flops (for multiple bets often) in the $40-$80 game. It appears that hasn’t changed much in the two years or so since I last played there.

I like calling rather than 3-betting, but I think the 3-bet is ok so long as the initial raiser and the cold-caller are very loose.

]]> By: Toonces http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12152 Toonces Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:16:55 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12152 Adman, on this hand, the player is a late-position blind in the cutoff. He's already in for 1 bet with A2s and a multi-way pot developing. He's not going to fold for 1 more bet with position, so the only decision is raise vs. call, and I agree with Ed that a call is better here. Adman, on this hand, the player is a late-position blind in the cutoff. He’s already in for 1 bet with A2s and a multi-way pot developing. He’s not going to fold for 1 more bet with position, so the only decision is raise vs. call, and I agree with Ed that a call is better here.

]]> By: Ad-man http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12149 Ad-man Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:51:20 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12149 Since when did 3 betting early position raisers with A2s become correct play? I would have thought that is an auto fold but not only is this guy doing it, Ed is half way in agreement with the play! What gives? Am I missing something? Since when did 3 betting early position raisers with A2s become correct play? I would have thought that is an auto fold but not only is this guy doing it, Ed is half way in agreement with the play! What gives? Am I missing something?

]]> By: deadmoneywalking http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12147 deadmoneywalking Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:48:09 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12147 I didn't know that 4 to the flop is considered "loose." Nor do I see why a 3-bet is warranted with one EP raiser and a cold caller. I didn’t know that 4 to the flop is considered “loose.”

Nor do I see why a 3-bet is warranted with one EP raiser and a cold caller.

]]> By: BTR http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12145 BTR Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:02:43 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12145 Wow are the $40/$80 limit games really that loose at the Commerce? I have GOT to make a trip out there. Wow are the $40/$80 limit games really that loose at the Commerce? I have GOT to make a trip out there.

]]> By: AKQJ10 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12141 AKQJ10 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:42:37 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12141 @SelfMade: I take that to mean the same thing as bare ace, i.e. only an ace and nothing more, here two pair with an ace kicker. In NLHE:TAP Ed and David Sklansky use something like "stiff ten" to mean a one-card straight on an extremely coordinated board. -- It's good to see the mid-limit games at Commerce playing like their legendary reputation. If it's really true, as some suggest, that the NL games are getting tougher there then I might want to refresh my LHE skills. @SelfMade:

I take that to mean the same thing as bare ace, i.e. only an ace and nothing more, here two pair with an ace kicker.

In NLHE:TAP Ed and David Sklansky use something like “stiff ten” to mean a one-card straight on an extremely coordinated board.

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It’s good to see the mid-limit games at Commerce playing like their legendary reputation. If it’s really true, as some suggest, that the NL games are getting tougher there then I might want to refresh my LHE skills.

]]> By: SelfMade http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-12137 SelfMade Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:57:53 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-99-taking-a-free-card-on-the-turn-or-giving-it.html#comment-12137 Can someone define "stiff ace?" Can someone define “stiff ace?”

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