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Q&A #58: Limit Hold 'em Two-fer Tuesday

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Going back through the last questions thread, I noticed a couple of quick questions from Roaming. I figured I’d rapid fire them today.

As a quick note to my readers, if you submit a hand derived from an online hand history, please use a hand converter such as this one from FlopTurnRiver before you submit the hand. You can set it to “Plain Text” to ensure that it comes through correctly in the comments. That will make the hand less “computery” and easier for humans to read quickly. I’ve done my own quick convert on these hands to make them more readable. You can see the originals in the comments of the Questions Thread.

Sitting longhanded in an online room. I’m wondering if i played the hand correctly, or if i should have done something differently?
.25/.50 limit, the game is somewhat tight, with around 3-4 seeing each flop.

Small posted the small blind – $0.12
Big posted the big blind – $0.25

** Dealing card to HERO: K :club: , A :heart:
Early called – $0.25
Hero raised – $0.50
4 folds
Other called – $0.50
Small called – $0.50
Big called – $0.50
Early raised – $0.75
All call

** Dealing the flop: K :heart: , 4 :heart: , 3 :club:
Small checked
Big bet – $0.25
Early raised – $0.50
Hero called – $0.50
Other folded
Small called – $0.50
Big called – $0.50

** Dealing the turn: A :spade:
Small bet – $0.50
Big raised – $1.00
Early called – $1.00
Roaming raised – $1.50
Small called – $1.50
Big called – $1.50
Early called – $1.50

** Dealing the river: 8 of Clubs
Small checked
Big checked
Early checked
Hero bet – $0.50
Small called – $0.50
Big called – $0.50
Early folded
Hero shows: K :club: , A :heart:
Small mucks:
Big mucks:
Hero wins $12.95 from the main pot

You said the game was “somewhat tight”, but this hand was a wild one. Was play like this typical, with four players each playing for three bets on the turn? I’ve played in many “somewhat tight” games where four players wouldn’t end up for three bets on the turn once in 10,000 hands. Let alone end up there with top two being the best hand.

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4 Responses to “Q&A #58: Limit Hold 'em Two-fer Tuesday”

Shrike
@ Tue Feb 27, 2007 06:05:30 PM
1

The first hand is just nuts.

One thing I do like to do in similar situations (hand #2) is to 3-bet on the flop once in a while with A-high hands (preferably if I have a backdoor straight or flush draw of some kind to go along with two overcards). I find that makes some players fold, often gets you a free card (or two), and you can win extra pots you would otherwise lose.

Jose
@ Thu Mar 01, 2007 01:14:02 PM
2

Yeah, I try that semibluff reraise sometimes. Its hard for me to know when to try it. It works better against good players that might either be bluffing themselves, or who might fold on the turn against another bet if a scare card comes. It works for me sometimes, but I think I need more experience to determine who to try it against. And when you get 4-bet it really sucks : )

Roaming
@ Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:56:14 PM
3

I will certainly post more, as my online account just got reactivated.

Sadly this happened quite a while back, and i dont remember exactly what i was thinking or the game. But rereading it all, i will say three-betting was NOT the norm in the online games i play in. And when reading my own questions again i caught myself saying “should have capped preflop” so i totally agree.

I also feel certain on the flop i should have bet at it as well. As i believe i incorrectly feared pocket 3s and 4s as possible hands against me.

Thanks for the response. Learning more everyday.

Roaming
@ Sun Mar 18, 2007 01:17:36 PM
4

Hey shrike, i dont like threebetting there at all. In my situation above i was out of position to the raiser. It couldnt earn me a freecard, and only beats someone who is bluffraising into 3 people. Highly unlikely imo.

Keep in mind as well, in order for you to make a free card play at this, your opponent would have had to checkraised you on the flop. Odd move for them to make. Totally changes the situation.

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