Q&A #56: A Set on the Turn in Limit Hold ‘em

Thanks for putting this hand up, Ed.

If anything, I wonder if I could have attempted to check-raise the flop to suck more players in for the later streets?

Live NL full-ring game - Strong draw on the flop

Hi Ed. Could use some help with my thought processes again. I call on the button with 7h8h after 4 limpers, blinds come along. The flop comes Ah 9* 6h. Both blinds check, utg bets 3xbb and all 3 other limpers call.

I have 50bb’s and most everyone has me covered. There are now 19 bb’s in the pot. I started to shove it all in and then thought, the blinds both look like they are going to call. If I hit at this table ( obviously, 7 handed is loose game) especially a non-heart 5 or T I am going to get paid off huge and if it hits on the turn I will probably get some action from more than one even if only one ends up all in with me.

I called. Sb folded, Bb raised 30 more bb’s so natch I now went all in. Was I too greedy? Should I have gone all in or made at least pot size raise when it came to me.

I think I should have pot-built raise if my stack was larger but with size of my stack in relation to pot didn’t think I would need to and wanted all the company I could get. Is this limit thinking ? ( the outcome would have been the same no matter what in this particular hand, but I want to be prepared for next time). What key factors should guide my decision here?

I call thread-jacking shenanigans!

I’d still like to hear what others have to say about possible lines of play on the flop and on the turn with the bottom set I had in the hand above.

Hey Shrike,
I wasn’t trying to jack your thread. The way I read the instructions the way to post a question is to comment in the questions forum. Is there a particular one to use? I know you’re not really upset, but I don’t want to do it this way if it’s not right.

I had already read your post. I didn’t have much to say because I would have played it the same way ( which isn’t necessarily a ringing endorsement ) (=
I am not a proponent of messing around with small sets. In limit or no-limit. Good cards to you.

Hey jamleeco,

There is a questions thread

http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/questions-threads/questions-thread-11.html

this was the last one, it was a couple of weeks back.

Hey Brasilstu, Thanks. Actually, I think I knew this and forgot. In the “old” days I believe the questions brought you up to the posted questions.

However, I believe I have done it right since Ed improved it to this way. (and just forgot). Gracias for the reminder.

As an aside, I would like to take this opportunity to say how much I love this site. I have been a winning limit player for over a year and am attempting to duplicate the feat with nl.

I owe so much to Dave, Mason, etc. but especially to Ed. We all know what a wonderful mind he has but I would like to add what a natural born teacher he is. Like poker, teaching is not just brains but also an art.

Thank you Ed.

I agree.

Thanks for the observation that a fancy check-raise on this flop is unnecessary.

I’m surprised neither of your opponents raised before the flop. Anyway, considering you’re in late position against two players showing so much strength, I may have just called the turn bets, hoping someone else would lead out betting on the river, letting me trap them for more bets if the board pairs.