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	<title>Comments on: Q&amp;A #56: A Set on the Turn in Limit Hold &#8216;em</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised neither of your opponents raised before the flop.  Anyway, considering you&#039;re in late position against two players showing so much strength, I may have just called the turn bets, hoping someone else would lead out betting on the river, letting me trap them for more bets if the board pairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised neither of your opponents raised before the flop.  Anyway, considering you&#8217;re in late position against two players showing so much strength, I may have just called the turn bets, hoping someone else would lead out betting on the river, letting me trap them for more bets if the board pairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Shrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.

Thanks for the observation that a fancy check-raise on this flop is unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>Thanks for the observation that a fancy check-raise on this flop is unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: jamleeco</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamleeco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brasilstu, Thanks. Actually, I think I knew this and forgot. In the &quot;old&quot; days I believe the questions brought you up to the posted questions.

However, I believe I have done it right since Ed improved it to this way. (and just forgot). Gracias for the reminder.

As an aside, I would like to take this opportunity to say how much I love this site. I have been a winning limit player for over a year and am attempting to duplicate the feat with nl. 

I owe so much to Dave, Mason, etc. but especially to Ed. We all know what a wonderful mind he has but I would like to add what a natural born teacher he is. Like poker, teaching is not just brains but also an art. 

Thank you Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brasilstu, Thanks. Actually, I think I knew this and forgot. In the &#8220;old&#8221; days I believe the questions brought you up to the posted questions.</p>
<p>However, I believe I have done it right since Ed improved it to this way. (and just forgot). Gracias for the reminder.</p>
<p>As an aside, I would like to take this opportunity to say how much I love this site. I have been a winning limit player for over a year and am attempting to duplicate the feat with nl. </p>
<p>I owe so much to Dave, Mason, etc. but especially to Ed. We all know what a wonderful mind he has but I would like to add what a natural born teacher he is. Like poker, teaching is not just brains but also an art. </p>
<p>Thank you Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya.. it&#039;s time to start a new questions thread I think. I want to redesign the front page a bit to make the most recent thread more obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya.. it&#8217;s time to start a new questions thread I think. I want to redesign the front page a bit to make the most recent thread more obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shrike,

You played fine. Don&#039;t try fancy checkraises from late position. Just fire away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shrike,</p>
<p>You played fine. Don&#8217;t try fancy checkraises from late position. Just fire away.</p>
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		<title>By: brasilstu</title>
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		<dc:creator>brasilstu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey jamleeco,

There is a questions thread 

http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/questions-threads/questions-thread-11.html

this was the last one, it was a couple of weeks back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey jamleeco,</p>
<p>There is a questions thread </p>
<p><a href="http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/questions-threads/questions-thread-11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/questions-threads/questions-thread-11.html</a></p>
<p>this was the last one, it was a couple of weeks back.</p>
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		<title>By: jamleeco</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamleeco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shrike,
           I wasn&#039;t trying to jack your thread. The way I read the instructions the way to post a question is to comment in the questions forum. Is there a particular one to use? I know you&#039;re not really upset, but I don&#039;t want to do it this way if it&#039;s not right.

I had already read your post. I didn&#039;t have much to say because I would have played it the same way      ( which isn&#039;t necessarily a ringing endorsement )   (=
  I am not a proponent of messing around with small sets. In limit or no-limit. Good cards to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shrike,<br />
           I wasn&#8217;t trying to jack your thread. The way I read the instructions the way to post a question is to comment in the questions forum. Is there a particular one to use? I know you&#8217;re not really upset, but I don&#8217;t want to do it this way if it&#8217;s not right.</p>
<p>I had already read your post. I didn&#8217;t have much to say because I would have played it the same way      ( which isn&#8217;t necessarily a ringing endorsement )   (=<br />
  I am not a proponent of messing around with small sets. In limit or no-limit. Good cards to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call thread-jacking shenanigans! :P

I&#039;d still like to hear what others have to say about possible lines of play on the flop and on the turn with the bottom set I had in the hand above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call thread-jacking shenanigans! <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d still like to hear what others have to say about possible lines of play on the flop and on the turn with the bottom set I had in the hand above.</p>
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		<title>By: jamleeco</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamleeco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Live NL full-ring game - Strong draw on the flop

Hi Ed. Could use some help with my thought processes again. I call on the button with 7h8h after 4 limpers, blinds come along. The flop comes Ah 9* 6h. Both blinds check, utg bets 3xbb and all 3 other limpers call. 

  I have 50bb&#039;s and most everyone has me covered. There are now 19 bb&#039;s in the pot. I started to shove it all in and then thought, the blinds both look like they are going to call. If I hit at this table ( obviously, 7 handed is loose game) especially a non-heart 5 or T I am going to get paid off huge and if it hits on the turn I will probably get some action from more than one even if only one ends up all in with me.

 I called. Sb folded, Bb raised 30 more bb&#039;s so natch I now went all in. Was I too greedy? Should I have gone all in or made at least pot size raise when it came to me. 

I think I should have pot-built raise if my stack was larger but with size of my stack in relation to pot didn&#039;t think I would need to and wanted all the company I could get. Is this limit thinking ? ( the outcome would have been the same no matter what in this particular hand, but I want to be prepared for next time). What key factors should guide my decision here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live NL full-ring game &#8211; Strong draw on the flop</p>
<p>Hi Ed. Could use some help with my thought processes again. I call on the button with 7h8h after 4 limpers, blinds come along. The flop comes Ah 9* 6h. Both blinds check, utg bets 3xbb and all 3 other limpers call. </p>
<p>  I have 50bb&#8217;s and most everyone has me covered. There are now 19 bb&#8217;s in the pot. I started to shove it all in and then thought, the blinds both look like they are going to call. If I hit at this table ( obviously, 7 handed is loose game) especially a non-heart 5 or T I am going to get paid off huge and if it hits on the turn I will probably get some action from more than one even if only one ends up all in with me.</p>
<p> I called. Sb folded, Bb raised 30 more bb&#8217;s so natch I now went all in. Was I too greedy? Should I have gone all in or made at least pot size raise when it came to me. </p>
<p>I think I should have pot-built raise if my stack was larger but with size of my stack in relation to pot didn&#8217;t think I would need to and wanted all the company I could get. Is this limit thinking ? ( the outcome would have been the same no matter what in this particular hand, but I want to be prepared for next time). What key factors should guide my decision here?</p>
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		<title>By: Shrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this hand up, Ed.

If anything, I wonder if I could have attempted to check-raise the flop to suck more players in for the later streets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this hand up, Ed.</p>
<p>If anything, I wonder if I could have attempted to check-raise the flop to suck more players in for the later streets?</p>
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