Comments on: Q&A #14: Dealing with Tough Players in Short-Handed Limit Hold ‘em http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-14-dealing-with-tough-players-in-short-handed-limit-hold-em.html Training poker players into professional players Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:32:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Archive Review: More November Madness · Noted Poker Authority http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-14-dealing-with-tough-players-in-short-handed-limit-hold-em.html/comment-page-1#comment-4501 Archive Review: More November Madness · Noted Poker Authority Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:40:01 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=61#comment-4501 [...] Dealing with Tough Players in Short-Handed Limit Hold ‘em is a mouthful, but it should help you out if you get that sneaking suspicion you’re getting outplayed when you are constantly getting raised at inopportune times. [...] [...] Dealing with Tough Players in Short-Handed Limit Hold ‘em is a mouthful, but it should help you out if you get that sneaking suspicion you’re getting outplayed when you are constantly getting raised at inopportune times. [...]

]]> By: Ed Miller http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-14-dealing-with-tough-players-in-short-handed-limit-hold-em.html/comment-page-1#comment-56 Ed Miller Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:40:16 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=61#comment-56 I'm glad the article helped. Tricky players who play well post-flop, but who are too loose preflop can be GOOD players. Like beat $100-$200 and higher good. The mistakes they make just aren't that exploitable. I think people get into trouble when they start thinking, "I should be able to outplay YOU. YOU make all these mistakes, and yet YOU are frustrating me." It becomes personal in a way that's detrimental. It becomes an ego thing. While people say poker is all about "playing the player" (blech), I think of it more like playing golf. When I sit in the game, I'm playing the course (the table), not the player. Each player adds a new hazard or dogleg, and my job is to adjust to the whole picture. I'll win today if I navigate the course well. If you focus too hard on avoiding one nasty water hazard, your ball may end up landing in the bunker all day. So step back, accept that some opponents play better than others, and adjust your game to the entire picture. Don't let it get personal. I’m glad the article helped. Tricky players who play well post-flop, but who are too loose preflop can be GOOD players. Like beat $100-$200 and higher good. The mistakes they make just aren’t that exploitable.

I think people get into trouble when they start thinking, “I should be able to outplay YOU. YOU make all these mistakes, and yet YOU are frustrating me.”

It becomes personal in a way that’s detrimental. It becomes an ego thing. While people say poker is all about “playing the player” (blech), I think of it more like playing golf. When I sit in the game, I’m playing the course (the table), not the player. Each player adds a new hazard or dogleg, and my job is to adjust to the whole picture. I’ll win today if I navigate the course well.

If you focus too hard on avoiding one nasty water hazard, your ball may end up landing in the bunker all day. So step back, accept that some opponents play better than others, and adjust your game to the entire picture. Don’t let it get personal.

]]> By: uDevil http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-14-dealing-with-tough-players-in-short-handed-limit-hold-em.html/comment-page-1#comment-53 uDevil Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:38:48 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=61#comment-53 Just wanted to say thanks for the very thoughtful response. When I have managed to turn things around against this kind of player, it has been by playing more or less as you suggest. At that point, if they're observant, they adjust or leave. It may be arrogance on my part that I think I "should" be able to outplay such players, but just because they play too loose doesn't mean they can't hurt me. Happy Thanksgiving --Turkey Just wanted to say thanks for the very thoughtful response.

When I have managed to turn things around against this kind of player, it has been by playing more or less as you suggest. At that point, if they’re observant, they adjust or leave.

It may be arrogance on my part that I think I “should” be able to outplay such players, but just because they play too loose doesn’t mean they can’t hurt me.

Happy Thanksgiving –Turkey

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