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Q&A #118: Suited Connectors Vs. Pocket Aces And The Confusion About Limping

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I wanted to clear up two major no-limit hold’em misunderstandings. They are somewhat related.

The first one is described in a comment by Ben Attenborough on recent post Playing No-Limit With A Plan.

Hey Ed, I would just like to say I think this is a very well written article which goes a long way to explaining why often suited connectors are over valued in NLH. The other night I was playing a live game in a casino and another player said he prefered 67suited to pocket aces. He said he had lost thousands with aces but had won loads with 67suited. I countered by suggesting as this was a live game environment and he wasn’t taking notes he couldn’t produce any evidence to prove his assertion. When I look at my poker tracker stats I find I make most money with aces.
Another friend of mine insists that “the pros say jack ten is a better hand than aces.” I strongly disagree with him but he is completely adamant about it. I understand than in really deepstacked games a player who plays aces really badly (by tipping the strength of his hand pre-flop and then refusing to release it post flop) a player could lose money with aces against a good player with J10 in position. But such a player will also show a loss with J10 (unless it is some bizarre player who plays J10 brilliantly but aces like an idiot). What do you think?

While I suppose that it’s theoretically possible for someone to play pocket aces so badly that they actually perform better with JTs (presumably because they’re far less likely to do something horrendously stupid with JTs), in practice I would highly doubt that any such player exists anywhere in the world.

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3 Responses to “Q&A #118: Suited Connectors Vs. Pocket Aces And The Confusion About Limping”

@ Sun Nov 09, 2008 07:46:34 PM

Couldn’t agree more Ed. They likely remember the times they lost huge pots with AA to SCs and the huge pots they won with SCs vs AA. They just forget all the medium and large pots that went the AA way. Nevermind all the pots that never went to a showdown, where the SC folded.

Ben Attenborough
@ Wed Nov 12, 2008 08:38:05 AM

Thanks for the response Ed, I wasn’t expecting that and I really appreciate your response. I’ve been having a bit of a tough time at the tables recently so I’m trying to take the pressure off myself a bit by playing less and trying to develop some other interests beside poker. But it’s always good to know people are interested in what you have to say. Keep up the good work here and at Stoxpoker.


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