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Q&A #116: Taking An All-In Risk During The Late Stages Of A Tournament

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In tournament play, you make decision after decision that could result in risking all your chips. You’ll make at least one decision for all your chips in virtually every tournament you play. And in most tournaments you’ll make multiple all-in decisions.

Whenever you choose to go for it, and you lose, it’s easy to second-guess your decision. “I thought I had an edge at the time, but maybe I should have waited for a better spot…”

Tournament decisions can be complicated by the nature of the prize structure, but in many cases the second-guessing is unwarranted. Today’s questioner, slide (from the message board), is wondering about some of his all-in decisions:

Lately ive been having some bad results calling All-in bets near or at the final table.

Usually when im at or near the final table (in the real life tourneys i play) average stack is around 10 big blinds, so there isnt much happening except ALLINs and folding (alot of stealing).

Obviously this cant go on forever, so whenever i think i have a good chance of having the best hand i call. Alot of times this turns out to be a coin flip, and i was wondering if calling the allin was the correct play.

Ill give 2 recent examples:

1) I called an allin with 77, other guy had KJ and the board paired Aces and Tens leaving me empty handed. (i thought he might shove with Ax, any pp or 2 face cards) so in my mind i had a slight advantage.

2) I call an allin with AQs, other guy had TT, board came up dry and i headed back home.

(i had this guy on AT+, pp, or 2 face cards)

Now obviously i shouldnt be calling these bets if we had bigger stacks, but with the short stacks you just cant wait around for AA/KK all the time.

So my question is should i be making these calls, or should i just let them steal, and wait till its my turn to steal back?

Unless the prize structure for your tournament is exceptionally flat, I like both of your choices to get the money in.

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5 Responses to “Q&A #116: Taking An All-In Risk During The Late Stages Of A Tournament”

pablo
@ Mon Oct 20, 2008 02:22:00 AM
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Say you consider yourself to be among the best players at this tournament. In this situation, I believe tightening up a little more when it comes to calling is a better approach. Especially if your stack is above 10 BB.

The fact that the other players are weaker than you implies that they’ll make mistakes that will allow you to win some chips without the need of taking a 55-45 deal. I’d wait for 60-40 deals at least.

I would really appreciate some comments on this!

masa
@ Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:13:58 AM
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I think in these situations playing with fellas pablo described it’s even more important to take these chances and go for table control. With weaker players your winning chance grows more than double when you double your stack.

masa
@ Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:18:01 AM
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… Forgot to explain that why chances more than doubles.. When you are better than others, you’ll end up picking your spots better and will have a bumper of chips even if you get unlucky. By bumper I mean, you don’t fall of the tournament if you lose. And biggest stack scares those weak players and you can steal more.

Slide
@ Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:27:21 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts Ed.

The reason i was wondering if these plays where correct is that in most tournament books they advise not to put too many chips on a small margin. But alot of times in the end stages you cant avoid it all the time.
I was trying to match this with not playing too tight. If i where to fold all these hands my opponents would try to steal even more.

Altho i do agree somewhat with Pablo that the call is of less value to a poor opponent.

GoGuzzi
@ Thu Nov 06, 2008 02:32:31 PM
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hmm…Both examples are Calls and a known coinflip…why not wait to be the aggressor? with a raise in front you know the raiser thinks they have a good enuff hand to at least be a coinflip….

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