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Q&A #114: Two Big Pocket Pair Hands From Live No-Limit Games

Posted on Sun Sep 28, 2008 09:31:34 AM
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Recently on the message board I fielded two questions about big pocket pair hands played in live no-limit games. I want to share these two hands with all my readers.

The first question comes from Slam. You can read the entire discussion on the message board. Slam asks:

I’m holding my own with all of my $100 buy-in…pretty loose game. I’m dealt K K in middle position. Two players in front of me limp in for $4 min bet. I make it $12. Two players after me and two behind me all call the $12 ( $60 in the pot )

Flop comes out 9-4-4 rainbow. Two players check to me, I push my $85 all-in. Everyone folds, one guy behind me (who checked) calls my bet with roughly same chip stack. He turns over 4-6 offsuit, two lumps of coal hit the turn and river, he politely rakes the pot.

I give him the stink eye and say “You call $12 with 4-6 offsuit ?!?!” He says “You bet $12 with Kings ?!? A couple other players snicker, I get up and leave (politely I think).

Statement: I have no problem dropping $100 in that situation, but wonder if that was a dumb play

Question #1: Did he infer my $12 pre-flop was too much or not enough ?

Question 2: Do you think I made the correct play, or was there a better way to play my kings ?

I would have played the hand differently in two ways:

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6 Responses to “Q&A #114: Two Big Pocket Pair Hands From Live No-Limit Games”

Pim
@ Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:35:21 PM
1

Ed,

Am I correct that you don’t play much online anymore? If so, why?

Looking forward to your reply.

Ed Miller
@ Mon Sep 29, 2008 02:28:50 PM
2

Pim,

I haven’t been playing much at all the last few months (online or live) because I’ve been busy. I moved across the country and I’m juggling five different projects… basically I’m trying to get the new book out, keep this website going as best as I can, do videos for Stoxpoker, and write my CardPlayer column (as well as working on another major project I haven’t announced yet). In the time left over I’ve been wanting to relax and get out of the house a bit rather than play poker.

Having said that, I have played some online and some live in the past few months, and I’m happy to do both when I get the time and I feel the urge to play.

Anonymous
@ Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:04:23 AM
3

Ed, does that mean that PNL Vol 2 is set to go? Have you successfully negotiated back the rights? I’m really looking forward to the book.

Ed Miller
@ Tue Sep 30, 2008 01:54:45 PM
4

The manuscript for Volume 2 is well on its way to being done.

Progress has been a little slow the last few months or so because we (the authors) have been a little reluctant to devote time to the project until the publishing mess is completely sorted.

At this point Mason has publicly disavowed the project, so I’m considering that the go ahead to find other publishing arrangements. We’ve gotten offers from a few different publishers, but we haven’t made any decisions yet.

Bottom line is that the book has definitely been delayed by maybe 4-6 months total because of this publishing tumult, but the bulk of it is written. Since we’re much closer to the finish line than the starting gate, I’m certain that despite the stumbling blocks the book is going to get done.

Greyzy
@ Wed Oct 01, 2008 07:38:57 AM
5

Ed,

you want to go to another publisher?

There’s NO way I’m gonna buy Vol. 2 if the cover doesn’t match Vol. 1, because that would ruin the look of my bookshelf! ;-)

Greyzy

BR50Kab
@ Thu Aug 19, 2010 01:56:15 AM
6

Hi Ed,

you remark on hand 1 that he plays with 50bb but he stated he was playing $100 and two limped in for $4, that would make him play a 25bb stack, not? He might as well have shoved all in on the limpers with such a short stack preflop as it leaves hardly anything post flop to play with.

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