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	<title>Comments on: Q&amp;A #107: Classifying Tournament Stages</title>
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		<title>By: CJDCR</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

I greatly appreciate the response to my question. I am a fan of your writing style and approach to poker. I also have PNL Vol. 1 and can&#039;t wait for Vol. 2.

It sounds like the satellite/middle stage greatly depends on structure. For the online MTTs I am currently playing, it sounds like it might begin around an average &quot;M&quot; or &quot;CSI&quot; of 10. Out of a 360-seat tourney, this occurs around the time the antes kick in and the field is down to the last 1/3. I would also consider this a pre-bubble stage as I feel the bubble starts around 1.5 X the number of cash places. In this situation, the final 36 cash, so the bubble would start around the last 54 (36 X 1.5). 

Besides GSIH, I am a big fan of Kill Phil. Its authors describe this period (last 1/3 with average CSI or M of 10) as the &quot;Move-In&quot; stage. There is some postflop play with limped hands or among the bigger stacks, but many, if not most, hands are push or fold preflop, as you described. I think the main difference between GSIH analysis and Kill Phil analysis of this stage is that they see the &quot;Move-in&quot; stage as lasting throughout the remainder of the MTT (unless the average M or CSI rises above 10 again). GSIH describes a shift out of the middle/satellite phase to the bubble/prize phase with more of a SNG strategy.

I was hoping you could clarify one more point in my question. Do most, if not all, MTTs have a middle/satellite stage, or do you ever see structures that go from the early/cash phase directly to the bubble/SNG phase? I would think all MTTs have a middle/satellite stage because as long as there are deeper stacks and smaller blinds (resembling early/cash game play), there is no pressure to approach the bubble phase for the field as a whole. If you are saying most, if not all, MTTs have the middle/satellite stage, I think I can figure out generally at what point it occurs based on your response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>I greatly appreciate the response to my question. I am a fan of your writing style and approach to poker. I also have PNL Vol. 1 and can&#8217;t wait for Vol. 2.</p>
<p>It sounds like the satellite/middle stage greatly depends on structure. For the online MTTs I am currently playing, it sounds like it might begin around an average &#8220;M&#8221; or &#8220;CSI&#8221; of 10. Out of a 360-seat tourney, this occurs around the time the antes kick in and the field is down to the last 1/3. I would also consider this a pre-bubble stage as I feel the bubble starts around 1.5 X the number of cash places. In this situation, the final 36 cash, so the bubble would start around the last 54 (36 X 1.5). </p>
<p>Besides GSIH, I am a big fan of Kill Phil. Its authors describe this period (last 1/3 with average CSI or M of 10) as the &#8220;Move-In&#8221; stage. There is some postflop play with limped hands or among the bigger stacks, but many, if not most, hands are push or fold preflop, as you described. I think the main difference between GSIH analysis and Kill Phil analysis of this stage is that they see the &#8220;Move-in&#8221; stage as lasting throughout the remainder of the MTT (unless the average M or CSI rises above 10 again). GSIH describes a shift out of the middle/satellite phase to the bubble/prize phase with more of a SNG strategy.</p>
<p>I was hoping you could clarify one more point in my question. Do most, if not all, MTTs have a middle/satellite stage, or do you ever see structures that go from the early/cash phase directly to the bubble/SNG phase? I would think all MTTs have a middle/satellite stage because as long as there are deeper stacks and smaller blinds (resembling early/cash game play), there is no pressure to approach the bubble phase for the field as a whole. If you are saying most, if not all, MTTs have the middle/satellite stage, I think I can figure out generally at what point it occurs based on your response.</p>
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		<title>By: weirdrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>weirdrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article Ed.

I submitted it to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roundersbuzz.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RoundersBuzz.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article Ed.</p>
<p>I submitted it to <a href="http://www.roundersbuzz.com/" rel="nofollow">RoundersBuzz.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;prizes&quot; was used twice with different meanings.  It was confusing and caused a re-read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;prizes&#8221; was used twice with different meanings.  It was confusing and caused a re-read.</p>
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