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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supernit: Check raising in position is my innovative way of mixing up my play. Good callout though. I need to proof my stuff.

AKQJ10: I appreciate the feedback. I guess I don&#039;t raise with air often because but I think it is OK if done sparingly against the right opponent with the right stack sizes and board texture. There are just certian times that your opponents hands can&#039;t take the heat so they dump it before making a commitment bet or call. I&#039;m pretty tight and solid. So when I make big bets, I have a big hand 90+% of the time. But this allows me to make some daring straight up bluffs once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supernit: Check raising in position is my innovative way of mixing up my play. Good callout though. I need to proof my stuff.</p>
<p>AKQJ10: I appreciate the feedback. I guess I don&#8217;t raise with air often because but I think it is OK if done sparingly against the right opponent with the right stack sizes and board texture. There are just certian times that your opponents hands can&#8217;t take the heat so they dump it before making a commitment bet or call. I&#8217;m pretty tight and solid. So when I make big bets, I have a big hand 90+% of the time. But this allows me to make some daring straight up bluffs once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperNit</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperNit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everybody is lyric about this article but isn’t it just an extensive way of saying that you should mix up your play otherwise you become too predictable? That is not ground breaking in my opinion.&quot;

No one was saying this was a ground-breaking article imo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everybody is lyric about this article but isn’t it just an extensive way of saying that you should mix up your play otherwise you become too predictable? That is not ground breaking in my opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one was saying this was a ground-breaking article imo</p>
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		<title>By: Digi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this just Shania?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this just Shania?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &#039;how wide are your ranges&#039; your way of asking me if I have a big one? If so, the answer is yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8216;how wide are your ranges&#8217; your way of asking me if I have a big one? If so, the answer is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in intuition. But i do believe in the power of forgiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in intuition. But i do believe in the power of forgiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Pim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody is lyric about this article but isn&#039;t it just an extensive way of saying that you should mix up your play otherwise you become too predictable? That is not ground breaking in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody is lyric about this article but isn&#8217;t it just an extensive way of saying that you should mix up your play otherwise you become too predictable? That is not ground breaking in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: AKQJ10</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKQJ10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

Although I&#039;ve read comments by Ed to the effect that he&#039;ll sometimes make a flop check-raise (or other play) with air, I don&#039;t see the point.

The whole theoretical point of semibluffing is this: if you&#039;re going to make bets and raises that you&#039;d rather not be called, you may as well make them with hands that have &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; equity if called rather than hands with &lt;i&gt;no equity&lt;/i&gt; if called.

In fact, a 9-out HE draw with two cards to come is never close to even money, so I disagree with your classification of such a hand as &quot;having the goods&quot; rather than &quot;bluffing.&quot;   Semibluffs &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; bluffs!   Just that they&#039;re bluffs with some equity when called.

So back to the &quot;air&quot;.   I can understand why I need to [semi]bluff at a dry flop on occasion to keep an opponent from correctly inferring that aggression on such a flop indicates two pair or better.   What I don&#039;t get is what value there is in picking total misses instead of rather weak semibluffing hands.   A dry board may not present strong draws by definition, but it represents all sorts of weak draws -- backdoor flush and backdoor OES draws, middle and bottom pairs, etc.  Why not choose those for our bluffs?    

To put it another way, if my range for say C/Ring the flop is [a tiny bit of equity..a monster] rather than [no equity whatsoever..a monster] am I really guilty of a significant informational leak?   If my opponent infers, &quot;Hmmm, AKQJ10 must have at least a backdoor flush draw here,&quot; and folds more often as a result, is that really hurting me?   I want the fold when I semibluff with 33% equity, let alone 4% or something silly.

Perhaps you and Ed are calling the 4% &quot;air&quot;, in which case it&#039;s just a semantic misunderstanding.  Otherwise, I don&#039;t get why you&#039;d choose to make a stone cold bluff before the river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve read comments by Ed to the effect that he&#8217;ll sometimes make a flop check-raise (or other play) with air, I don&#8217;t see the point.</p>
<p>The whole theoretical point of semibluffing is this: if you&#8217;re going to make bets and raises that you&#8217;d rather not be called, you may as well make them with hands that have <i>some</i> equity if called rather than hands with <i>no equity</i> if called.</p>
<p>In fact, a 9-out HE draw with two cards to come is never close to even money, so I disagree with your classification of such a hand as &#8220;having the goods&#8221; rather than &#8220;bluffing.&#8221;   Semibluffs <b><i>are</i></b> bluffs!   Just that they&#8217;re bluffs with some equity when called.</p>
<p>So back to the &#8220;air&#8221;.   I can understand why I need to [semi]bluff at a dry flop on occasion to keep an opponent from correctly inferring that aggression on such a flop indicates two pair or better.   What I don&#8217;t get is what value there is in picking total misses instead of rather weak semibluffing hands.   A dry board may not present strong draws by definition, but it represents all sorts of weak draws &#8212; backdoor flush and backdoor OES draws, middle and bottom pairs, etc.  Why not choose those for our bluffs?    </p>
<p>To put it another way, if my range for say C/Ring the flop is [a tiny bit of equity..a monster] rather than [no equity whatsoever..a monster] am I really guilty of a significant informational leak?   If my opponent infers, &#8220;Hmmm, AKQJ10 must have at least a backdoor flush draw here,&#8221; and folds more often as a result, is that really hurting me?   I want the fold when I semibluff with 33% equity, let alone 4% or something silly.</p>
<p>Perhaps you and Ed are calling the 4% &#8220;air&#8221;, in which case it&#8217;s just a semantic misunderstanding.  Otherwise, I don&#8217;t get why you&#8217;d choose to make a stone cold bluff before the river.</p>
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		<title>By: AKQJ10</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKQJ10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed&#039;s post is of course interesting an on-target.  Actually I&#039;m trying to think of my play less in terms like, &quot;Should I have continuation bet in that hand?&quot; and more like, &quot;What % of the time should I be CBing in that position?&quot; or &quot;What should my range be?&quot;

But VegasSocrates makes a really solid point IMO.  Sometimes we &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; get in the habit of approaching hand histories like chess problems, where every position has a &quot;right&quot; answer.   Of course, that&#039;s absolutely not true, whether you want to call it metagame or multi-hand strategy or whatever.

And yes, sometimes a naive but highly intuitive player can outplay a &quot;sophisticated&quot; player lacking that same gut feel for psychology.   In fact, knowing that makes me want to get an analog watch (see Harrington I) and start randomizing instead of trying to go by feel -- although sometimes I think I could become a good intuitive player too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed&#8217;s post is of course interesting an on-target.  Actually I&#8217;m trying to think of my play less in terms like, &#8220;Should I have continuation bet in that hand?&#8221; and more like, &#8220;What % of the time should I be CBing in that position?&#8221; or &#8220;What should my range be?&#8221;</p>
<p>But VegasSocrates makes a really solid point IMO.  Sometimes we <b>do</b> get in the habit of approaching hand histories like chess problems, where every position has a &#8220;right&#8221; answer.   Of course, that&#8217;s absolutely not true, whether you want to call it metagame or multi-hand strategy or whatever.</p>
<p>And yes, sometimes a naive but highly intuitive player can outplay a &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; player lacking that same gut feel for psychology.   In fact, knowing that makes me want to get an analog watch (see Harrington I) and start randomizing instead of trying to go by feel &#8212; although sometimes I think I could become a good intuitive player too.</p>
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		<title>By: supernit</title>
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		<dc:creator>supernit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For you bad play means &quot;not extracting enough value from marginal hands&quot; &quot;playing suited connectors too much oop&quot; &quot;limping on the button&quot;

For me its reraising all in with air in a limped pot, calling all ins on the turn with a 6 high flush draw, limping with aces then autoshoving a 678 flop......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you bad play means &#8220;not extracting enough value from marginal hands&#8221; &#8220;playing suited connectors too much oop&#8221; &#8220;limping on the button&#8221;</p>
<p>For me its reraising all in with air in a limped pot, calling all ins on the turn with a 6 high flush draw, limping with aces then autoshoving a 678 flop&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people would get this concept more if you were to tell them never to squeeze if its your last hand of the night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people would get this concept more if you were to tell them never to squeeze if its your last hand of the night</p>
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