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Ed, is the new book’s focus primarily on 6-max? i hadn’t realized this was the case before.

I am hoping there will be plenty of material and hand examples for us old live FR 1/2-2/5 players as well…

Ed, will there be a printed version available at some point? I would like to read the *printed* book during my summer vacation in July

Also, if the book will only be available online, then I hope you offer us “creditcardless” Europeans an option – say through bank transfer – to purchase the book.

Can’t wait…it’s like waiting for Christmas at the age of 5 lol

Hi Ed,

+1 on creditcardless Europeans here!

Anyway, if we buy the e-book, are we allowed to print it out (laserprinter) for easier reading, or does this constitude a copyright infringement?

BTW, just out of curiosity, which is your favorite poker book NOT written by you?

Totally looking forward to it, Ed. I’m sure it will do quite well in the community considering not only the source but also that it will be the first 6-max books NLHE (to my knowledge at least… wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong though).

I’m planning to buy this book too. The 2+2 folks were pushing to get the book out faster (“before Harrington’s new books” etc.). I guess that’s one point of view, but I’m glad that Ed and the other authors didn’t rush it and took the time to do it right.

I have been looking forward to the book, I’ll be picking it up the day you make it available. Good luck.

The last thing I want to do Ed is re-hash all the stuff about Mason. Especially considering that the last time I opened my big mouth on that subject I managed to deftly insert my foot. I didn’t know what the story really was and it doesn’t matter any more anyway since it’s all “water under the bridge” as they say.

All I am trying to say is that I am glad that you guys are taking the time to do it right. I haven’t been disappointed yet by any of your books and I doubt that this one will be the first…

what’s worse: not having 2+2’s name behind your book (for wider distribution), or having to deal with that egomaniac and his regime? tough decision there imo. hope the ebook route will be profitable for you guys.

Hand one.

Not sure I prefolop raise that much. Probably a smaller raise is OK– you get initiative cheaper and since you aren’t trying to make a top pair hand here, really, expecting to get paid off, you’re not looking to make the SPR small.

Flop: of course you want to value bet. When he calls I think he’s got hearts, a medium pair, two overs maybe with hearts, or a T. If he’s got a T you are ahead of a few but behind most. I don’t know anything about this player so I don’t know if he floats or thinks you are spewy or what.

Turn brings another flush draw and gutshots and an overcard. I think a bet is good. When he calls I think maybe he’s got hearts, maybe with the Q, or a T. He might raise with a T, however, now that there are more draws. It’s possible he’s being stubborn with pocket nines or something insane (again, if he thinks you’re very aggressive) or picked up some wacky diamond draw.

River: Check– OK. At this point you are chopping with any T. The question is can you induce a bluff from some idiotic heart draw? When I first saw the hand I thought, “I call and chop,” or take it from Ah5h or something. In the awful live games I play I’ll see a bluff there a fair amount, or a chop from a badly played T. Here, I don’t know. Certainly KQh or QJh fits this hand pretty well. My guess is the moral of the quiz is that you are supposed to fold.

Hand 2

Pre flop is fine.

Flop is fine, but maybe I bet a little bigger. When he calls he’s got any of the normal J’s or Q’s or 9T or KT. Set of 3’s should raise so I think that’s out. Some opponents would call one bet with a mid pocket pair.

Turn gets tricky. You are still way ahead of his range. I’d probably still bet, because there are a lot of pair plus gutshot hands that can still call.

River. Not a good card. Against certain opponents I make this bet and get paid off by worse two pair hands, but can easily fold to the CR. Knowing nothing I wimp out and check behind, even though I think the SB leads if he makes the straight a lot of the time. He knows it’s a scare card and you’ll be checking behind a lot. So maybe the moral of this one is you are supposed to jam and get paid by TJ and TQ. But I’m almost certainly still checking.

HAND #1 is really tough without having some idea of his preflop call range (specifically how often it includes mid-to-low suited connectors) and his postflop looseness (how likely he would be to fold 99-77 to your turn barrel).

I would assume that his v-betting range on the river looks something like:

AhQh, KhQh, QhJh (definitely), AQ (could peel flop), AsTs, JsTs, Ts9s, Ts8s (possible but might not cold-call pre with some of those and might have raised flop or turn with them).

His potential bluffs:

KhJh, Jh9h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 6h5h, 5h4h (some of these are more likely than the others obviously). I assume he would check back the river with the Ah. He might try to bluff you off a chop, but I think he would most likely check it back given the strength you’ve shown.

99-77 = The lower the pocket pair gets, the more likely he would be to fold the turn. There is some chance he gets to the river with these and they do comprise a lot of combos in his total river range. I assume JJ would check back on the river (rather than turn it into a bluff) because you could easily have AA-KK and might not fold it.

If he peeled AK and turned a gutshot I think he would check that back as well.

Weighting these combinations (he might not ALWAYS turn his counterfeited PPs into bluffs or peel turn with them, he might not always peel flop with AQ, and he might have raised his other Tens on flop or turn, etc.) I think it is pretty close to even, maybe slightly more bluff combos in his range.

You could consider a few other variables: Hero’s line is so strong (usually his weakest hands will be Ace-high or counterfeited PPs) that it might dissuade Villain from bluffing (therefore more likely Villain is v-betting). Without bet-sizing reads it’s hard to tell the motivation for his size. It could either be that big to maximize fold equity against Ace-highs or it could be because he ended up with the nut full house in an unexpected way and is trying to maximize his payoff by looking like a bluff.

Given that you need to win approx. 1/3rd of the time, I thought at first this hand was a fold, but now examining it more closely, I think it’s close. I wouldn’t hate it either way, especially without reads. With reads, this can be an easy call or an easy fold.

Would appreciate any thoughts on my points. Looking forward to hear results/your thoughts.

Hey Ed. Don’t forget about these hands, please. Soren and I are dying to know.

Oh hey, thanks for taking the time to close this up. Somehow, I didn’t realize you were the player. Hope the book is going great. I’m really looking forward to it.

WOW!!! 2+2 really has a boner about anything about this new book on thier site.
I mada a post about the release date and as expected post was deleted. Amazing its the only new release 2+2 has has refused to acknowledge.

Mason’s stated policy is that non-2p2 books may be discussed in the forums provided that the thread is started by someone other than the author(s), publisher, or anyone else associated with the book. When threads were started about Small Stakes No Limit, threads which adhered to this policy, these threads were locked and/or disappeared. Mason’s explanation was that it was against policy to talk about non-2p2 books (specifically about matters like table of contents, pricing, etc.) before publication. At the moment there is a live thread about Phil Hellmuth’s new publishing company and its first announced (but not yet available) book, something about various pro players and their poor money management skills or whatever. Not only is this thread alive and well, but Mason posted in it to tell everyone that he turned down the opportunity to publish Phil’s autobiography and that Phil was unhappy with the publisher of Play Poker Like the Pros because of low royalties, implying of course that Phil wanted to go with Mason because of Mason’s famously high royalties (but, oh, the price in aggro those royalties come with). LMAO!

I am interested to see what happens in a couple of weeks when early purchasers (which I hope some of you will be) start to post reviews, questions, etc. According to Mason’s various statements, that should be permitted. I think Sunny still has a live account over there and presumably, according to stated policy, should be able to answer questions and respond to comments. Matt of course was banned and AFAIK not unbanned. Edward stopped posting, and I don’t really know if he was also officially banned or what would happen if he posted over there–which of course he won’t. I too have a live account and was never banned. I do not post there, but I wonder if I would instantly be disappeared if I tried–which I won’t.

Stay tuned….

LOL