Low-Limit Preflop Quiz: My Answers

So with three years’ perspective, do you still agree with all of these answers?

Ed, I know you think poker on the interweb is evil, but could you cater some limit articles more to 6 max, with the type of game conditions that are prevalent these days.

After I read SSHE I was brimming with pre-flop confidence, but I can’t play full ring anymore because too many people have read it too. Even at limits much lower than I play at you’re lucky to get three to the flop.

So I now play 6 max, $2/$4. The games are still quite juicy, but I don’t have a lot of confidence in the ‘pretend you’re playing full ring and the first three people folded’ advice.

I rescued a stray cat a few months ago, so I reckon God might lay off the kittens just for a while.

10/20

Ed, your preflop action seems a lot looser than what you proscribe in SSHE. Is this game meant to be far looser than the SSHE games your book discusses.

I am especially curious about the types of hands you are calling with in the big blind. SSHE says basically to never call with 2 unsuited cards below ten. Is the excellent relative position the reason you are calling with 86 and K7? How far do you take that?

I would love to see the answers to the exact same quiz – except that instead of a $4/$8 Limit game, it’s a $1/$2 No-Limit game. Same players, same poor play, same hand ranges.

This actually describes quite well the No Limit Hold’em home games that I frequent.

I took this quiz at my own blog. I’d be interested in some advice, especially since I folded more of these hands than Ed did.

I think I’ve got the concepts right, but I’m not weighting them the way I should be. Is that so?

Brasiltsu,
I was also worried at first when I started playing in tight low limit games. But don’t worry, however it’s 3 people to the flop (on average, just on average – often happens 4, 5, 6…) they’re still playing badly. Ax offsuit is a norm for calling and ATo UTG pretty good hand for raising.
Just play and observe your oponents.
As for the 6-max games – read ‘WITHG’ and ‘HPFAP’. I was asking about the preflop shorthanded advice from SSH recently – search for Ed’s advice, must be somewhere on the forum.

‘search for Ed’s advice’ – I meant Ed’s response, sorry

Well, I got 15 out of 20, a C. On most of the ones I got wrong, I said fold because that was the “correct” thing to do for tighter games. I started out by reading a lot of things that didn’t apply to the type of games I was playing in. I’ve been reading SSHE and trying to master these loose opponents I play against in Southern California. The game conditions Ed described sound a lot like the 2-4 and 3-6 games I play in, only my opponents tend to be passive types. Are there any further adjustments I should make for a game that’s just as loose, but also very passive, where maybe 20 percent of hands are raised preflop?

i would raise k 7 suited with two limpers because there loose players. If neither player hits the flop strong a bet should take it down. i look at it like this they call hoping to hit the flop, i raise hoping they dont hit the flop.

i would raise k 7 suited with two limpers because there loose players. If neither player hits the flop strong a bet should take it down. i look at it like this they call hoping to hit the flop, i raise hoping they dont hit the flop. this is an example of playing the player not the cards. now if two tight players limped in pre flop i would call instead of raising because they are tight

another example be say i know a player has called with a low pocket pair pre flop gambling for a set n he will fold if he dont make a set. pocket pairs flop sets 13% of the time so 87% of the time he wont. i would bet pre flop he aint going to flop a set then countinution bet on the flop. see knowing what a person is gambling for before the flop is a huge factor. and table image gives me an idea of what type of gambler he is. tight players usually gamble with hi cards and loose players gamble with just about any hand. so it doesnt matter what kind of hand i got when i have an idea of what my opponents are gambling for. now when i am first to enter the pot i dont have an idea of what people are gambling for. so i must play tight

Hum quite interesting. I had the same answer, except at first I would have fold the 73s and de 33 and call the A10s (question 15).

After re-thinking about it, I would call the 73s and the 33, but still not raise the A10s. I think it’s close though (like raise for sure with AJs and call with A9s)

Damn, the 8-6 was offsuit. Ok I would have fold the 8-6