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		<title>By: MrAmbiguous</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrAmbiguous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Quote

&quot;Overall strategy is something not many players think about much, but it’s a critical concept the higher you go and the more aggressive and attentive your opponents are. Poker is not a series of independent trials, like roulette or craps. It’s more an interconnected web. What you do this hand affects all your future hands. It will have a psychological effect on your opponents, and it will cause them to change the way they read your hands.&quot;

thought it was worth repeating to be honest...great article aswell,it is a good way to balance-mix your game while keeping up the aggression.And in this article being in a short aggressive game ,it is another good way to fight back and keep them at bay i suppose...plus i think its a good way to set up future plays, especially if they think they know what you&#039;re doing?</description>
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<p>&#8220;Overall strategy is something not many players think about much, but it’s a critical concept the higher you go and the more aggressive and attentive your opponents are. Poker is not a series of independent trials, like roulette or craps. It’s more an interconnected web. What you do this hand affects all your future hands. It will have a psychological effect on your opponents, and it will cause them to change the way they read your hands.&#8221;</p>
<p>thought it was worth repeating to be honest&#8230;great article aswell,it is a good way to balance-mix your game while keeping up the aggression.And in this article being in a short aggressive game ,it is another good way to fight back and keep them at bay i suppose&#8230;plus i think its a good way to set up future plays, especially if they think they know what you&#8217;re doing?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an interesting scenario. Although I consider myself somewhat tight-aggressive, I would be still so worried about betting and raising that hard with simply a flush draw.

Given my luck, I&#039;d be taken out with a straight, or trips. LOL

IMHO Ed, the SSH book is the one I have found invaluable and have stuck with along (especially the questions) with the chart on Hold &#039;em for Adv plyrs. Although Im starting to find online opponents much more aggressive, Ive still been able to manage an alright standing.


Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an interesting scenario. Although I consider myself somewhat tight-aggressive, I would be still so worried about betting and raising that hard with simply a flush draw.</p>
<p>Given my luck, I&#8217;d be taken out with a straight, or trips. LOL</p>
<p>IMHO Ed, the SSH book is the one I have found invaluable and have stuck with along (especially the questions) with the chart on Hold &#8216;em for Adv plyrs. Although Im starting to find online opponents much more aggressive, Ive still been able to manage an alright standing.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though against the right players, obviously checking to induce a bluff might be better. I just think that betting has value against many opponents as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though against the right players, obviously checking to induce a bluff might be better. I just think that betting has value against many opponents as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timprov,

I&#039;ve seen people fold two pair or even a set in situations like this to the &quot;obvious&quot; straight.

I&#039;ve also seen people call with worse hands like A7. If you don&#039;t fear a bluff-raise, then I like the bet for the two-way value. You might get a worse hand to call, and you might get a better hand to fold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timprov,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen people fold two pair or even a set in situations like this to the &#8220;obvious&#8221; straight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also seen people call with worse hands like A7. If you don&#8217;t fear a bluff-raise, then I like the bet for the two-way value. You might get a worse hand to call, and you might get a better hand to fold.</p>
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		<title>By: timprov</title>
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		<dc:creator>timprov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of hands will call the checkraise and fold to the river bet; notably another spade draw, which is by far villain&#039;s most likely hand.

A better question is why on earth do we want villain to fold to a river bet here?  I&#039;m all for firing when we miss, but let&#039;s induce a bluff or a too-thin value bet when we make top pair.  Unless villain is extremely weak he&#039;s never folding a better hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of hands will call the checkraise and fold to the river bet; notably another spade draw, which is by far villain&#8217;s most likely hand.</p>
<p>A better question is why on earth do we want villain to fold to a river bet here?  I&#8217;m all for firing when we miss, but let&#8217;s induce a bluff or a too-thin value bet when we make top pair.  Unless villain is extremely weak he&#8217;s never folding a better hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just it, though. I think I remember reading in one of the comments on the original post that they would check the river because no one would call the checkraise and then fold to a river bet.

But obviously people will, and they do. People show up with weird hands, and they fold weird hands too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it, though. I think I remember reading in one of the comments on the original post that they would check the river because no one would call the checkraise and then fold to a river bet.</p>
<p>But obviously people will, and they do. People show up with weird hands, and they fold weird hands too.</p>
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		<title>By: JJS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK that&#039;s the hero&#039;s point of view but what about the button?  I was amazed to see that he folded on the river for a single BB in an 8 BB pot!  Getting 8 to 1 odds I would call with anything, even deuce high!

(Yes I know there&#039;s no such thing as deuce high...  )  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK that&#8217;s the hero&#8217;s point of view but what about the button?  I was amazed to see that he folded on the river for a single BB in an 8 BB pot!  Getting 8 to 1 odds I would call with anything, even deuce high!</p>
<p>(Yes I know there&#8217;s no such thing as deuce high&#8230;  )  <img src='http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,

It&#039;s actually one reason I picked this hand for the first discussion. I sort of expected some of the responses to be on the weak-tight side, and I think many of them were.

It&#039;s important to remember that you need to bluff/semi-bluff/push draws relatively frequently to push people off weak hands and to provide cover for your made hands.

It&#039;s easy to get disheartened because they &quot;always call you down&quot; or &quot;they always have something,&quot; but the fact is, they don&#039;t, and they don&#039;t. You have tons of equity and plenty of leverage. I&#039;m going to push pretty hard most of the time when I catch a flop like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually one reason I picked this hand for the first discussion. I sort of expected some of the responses to be on the weak-tight side, and I think many of them were.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to remember that you need to bluff/semi-bluff/push draws relatively frequently to push people off weak hands and to provide cover for your made hands.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to get disheartened because they &#8220;always call you down&#8221; or &#8220;they always have something,&#8221; but the fact is, they don&#8217;t, and they don&#8217;t. You have tons of equity and plenty of leverage. I&#8217;m going to push pretty hard most of the time when I catch a flop like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good response Ed.  Not sure why I&#039;ve been so weak-tight lately, but this was a &#039;duh&#039; moment for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good response Ed.  Not sure why I&#8217;ve been so weak-tight lately, but this was a &#8216;duh&#8217; moment for me.</p>
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