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7:00 am
July 24, 2009


aclark

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Hello,


This is a question in response to the SSS articles, primarily the ones about crushing wild NL games.  Say I'm buying in for 50 big blinds to some crazy games and playing big A and K broadways aggressively like Ed describes.  Math suggests I'll flop a top pair between 25% and 32% of the time with these hands, and that's pretty much an auto-shove, cool.  Another chunk of the time I'm about 8 to 1 to flop a flush draw and 8 to 1 to flop an openender.  When I hit it I'm about 35% chance to win by river with some great fold equity.  


My question for Ed: under what circumstances (if any) should I shove these draws on the flop?


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10:15 pm
August 13, 2009


karbyn

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If they games are that wild, I'd be looking to shove if no one has bet in front of me.  This would apply if I'm first to act, or last. 

Alternatively, if the pot isn't too large PF, then you could look to checkraise all-in if you're EP.
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