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9:35 pm
October 22, 2007
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mbuss
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This happened to me several months ago, and I’m interested in how others in the forum would play this.
$1/2 NL live full ring. The table is the same as always: very loose, an average of five players see the flop, and s00ted cards rule. I’m either UTG or UTG+1 with AQo. I raise to $12 (standard). It folds all the way around to the BB, who calls. He’s an action player, and he definitely does not have a hand here. There’s no question I’m best going to the flop. He has $120, I have him covered.
Flop comes KJT, all diamonds. I’ve flopped Broadway, but I have no diamond. My hand cannot improve.
He immediately pushes all in.
Do you put him on a made flush? A high diamond? A scared two pair?
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5:37 am
October 23, 2007
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karbyn
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The way you describe the table, I would expect him to have Ad Xx … that said, being an action player, you probably have the best of him most of the time.
He bet $108 into a $25 pot … he either has the nuts here, or maybe a set and wants to take it down right now. His huge overbet means he is playing his cards ( Level 1 thinking ) or he is playing you ( Level 2 thinking ).
He would have 3:1 to make his flush ( if he isn’t there already ), so you don’t have the pot odds to call.
At a table as weak as you described, I think you should lay it down ( maybe faceup? )and wait. This opportunity will come around again where the call isn’t so close.
I would be sick, but I wouldn’t risk my chips here, unless I could rebuy, or my stack was huge.
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5:43 am
October 23, 2007
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Todd
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First things first. I’ve started to fold AQo in EP. As it turns out, that hand was a loser in that position. I think I’m a lot happier for it. You might want to consider the same.
To the question at hand. I’m not putting him on a hand, I’m putting him on a range of hands. Some very good, some good draws, some total trash. I would fold this a lot if the player was unknown if stacks were 100BB. There are too many bad situations where the player has a couple of baby suited cards or a straight and a freeroll with 1 diamond. The risk reward really isn’t that great. You only have $12 invested in the hand to this point. If you estimate that he has a baby flush 30% and some sort of draw 50% of the time, you’re pretty close to break even. So many times people make ridiculous overbets with really strong hands. I’m not that inclined to gamble if I don’t have redraws.
But he doesn’t have 100BB, it’s more like 50 and an action player. For that, it depends on your tilt control. You’re going to catch this guy in a bluff or with a hand you beat a reasonable amount of the time. But, you are also going to double him up with baby flushes once in a while. If doubling him up when he draws out with 2d2s is going to tilt you, then fold. Most of the time, I’m going to call in this situation. If I have a comfortable stack, I’m almost always calling. Even more so because he’s an action player on my right. I will have chances to get my chips back.
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6:14 am
October 23, 2007
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Todd
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karbyn said:
The way you describe the table, I would expect him to have Ad Xx … that said, being an action player, you probably have the best of him most of the time.
He bet $108 into a $25 pot … he either has the nuts here, or maybe a set and wants to take it down right now. His huge overbet means he is playing his cards ( Level 1 thinking ) or he is playing you ( Level 2 thinking ).
He would have 3:1 to make his flush ( if he isn’t there already ), so you don’t have the pot odds to call.
At a table as weak as you described, I think you should lay it down ( maybe faceup? )and wait. This opportunity will come around again where the call isn’t so close.
I would be sick, but I wouldn’t risk my chips here, unless I could rebuy, or my stack was huge.
How is he 3-1 to make his flush? He has 9 outs with 2 cards to come. He’s about 1-3 to make his flush. We have 65% equity in a 250 pot if we know he’s on a FD. That’s more than enough for the $100 call. Are you saying he doesn’t have the combined odds to call with some percentage of made flushes mixed in?
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8:14 am
October 23, 2007
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Shrike
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Call every day, and twice on Sundays.
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11:07 am
October 23, 2007
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mbuss
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Shrike said:
Call every day, and twice on Sundays.
That rings a bell. 
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11:38 am
October 23, 2007
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Shrike
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mbuss said:
Shrike said:
Call every day, and twice on Sundays.
That rings a bell.
I don’t believe in folding the second nuts with these stack sizes. It’s against my religion.
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3:50 pm
October 23, 2007
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Pawel
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call
if it’s the game you described he will have trash and try to make fool of you
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