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Article about double-barreling and NLTAP

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6:42 am
February 22, 2008


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Ed,

 

In your double-barrelling article you had the following comment:

 

5. “Good” stack sizes. Good stack sizes are more defined by avoiding
bad stack sizes. A bad stack size is… say you double barrel, and you
get raised all-in. If your hand/draw is just strong enough that you’re
really on the fence about whether you should call the push or not given
the pot odds… that was a bad stack size to double barrel with. The
reason is that if you’re on the fence about whether to call or not,
then you’re basically break even either way. If your hand is break
even, it’s worthless. And presumably, if it’s good enough to call a
push, then it had quite a bit of value to begin with. So by allowing
your opponent to push on you, you’ve taken a good hand that had value
and made it worthless, which is about as big a downside as you can have
when you bet a hand with value.

 

 

I was reading over the concepts section in NLTAP and I was looking at the concept where if you are on the fence about calling an AI raise/reraise then you probably bet/raised an incorrect amount.   The basic idea being that if his push makes it break even then if you had raised more of less you could have made a +EV by pushing or giving yourself a chance to fold.  If you push you can get some "better" hands to fold, although you will be called more often.  The hand that I remember is having AJo and only 8BB left.  It is better to push instead of raising 3.5BB if a reraise leaves you at about break even.  You may get hands like 77 to fold that could have reraised you.   One of the last sentences is that this concept does apply postflop as well.  So, I started trying to imagine some spots where that might happen.  It really seemed to me that if I have a draw or something I should make sure that I shouldn’t bet an amount that if a villain pushes over the top of it I will have breaken even odds to call.  For example, if I have a 15 out draw on the turn and I bet the pot then get pushed, by bet was a bad size(I am getting about 2:1 on a call for a ~2:1 shot).

 

I just want to make sure that I am nailing this concept down correctly.  This really seems like a very powerful concept.  It is kinda tricky to nail down, but I think it could really help me out. This will allow me to find some more places to push draws and things like that.  If I can push draws more, then I can push monsters more.

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