Message Board : 3bet Size OOP

guitarizt said:

I have a tag image, and pfr is a 29/22 so I'm not too worried about stacking off to him preflop.  What should my raise size here be to price out speculative hands sinec it's kind of obvious that I have a tight range? 9?

http://www.handposter.com/hand/7788

hmmm, 29/22 isn't that tight.  I think the raise is fine here.  It looks like a squeeze, so you might get 2 weaker aces to call you, maybe even raise.  I'd be wary of A[QJT] and K[QJT] flops though.

guitarizt said:

I have a tag image….29/22 … it's kind of obvious that I have a tight range

You might want to revise your definition.

Out of the 1326 starting hands, if you play all pairs (78) and all possible broadway hands suited or not (40+120), plus all other suited connectors except 32s (28), all other suited 1-gaps 53s+ (28), all other suited 2-gaps 85s+ (20), all other suited Aces (32), plus offsuit connectors T9o 98o 87o (36), most people would call that a fairly loose starting lineup.  It's just slightly under 29%.   

A reasonably tight solid player might occasionally play the 29% lineup listed above from late positions only, but a much lower percentage across all positions.  If your overall VPIP is 29%, you are probably playing close to 40% from the button and cutoff and maybe the small blind too, and therefore playing a lot of trash. 

Not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not TAG. 

guitarizt said:

guitarizt said:

I have a tag image, and pfr is a 29/22

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If you're saying I misunderstood what you were referring to, apparently the other commenters did too.  But usually X/Y stats like that means VPIP/PFR, with both shown in percentage of hands dealt to you and the slash just being a separator.  Sometimes postflop AF is added to give X/Y/Z.   So I think we all assumed you meant 29% VPIP and 22% PFR, which is a typical range for a medium-loose aggressive player.

In those terms, a TAG would often be something like 16/10 +/-.

I see on your hand history it was a 6-max, where looser play is normal (only because there is no EP), but I stand by my statement that it isn't a tag image unless you meant something entirely different from the normal notation.