Bill

I had some problems with it, at least the way it was described as “unbeatable” in Gordon’s book, and wrote about it in my post “Add it up“. Namely, when you mix up your play in that you go all-in with draws and flopped sets so that your opponent’s don’t know which one it is this time, draws are more common than sets since you can have a set in 3 different ways, but a draw in perhaps 6 to 16 ways, depending on whether it is suited.

I was just assuming that due to it being quite possible to run poor and miss your draws more often than the expected percentage and the possibility of not getting a fold as often as you would expect in general then you could, in theory, be down a quite a few BI due to this play, in the short term.

I’m not that worried about my BR as I’m still playing micro. Just thought that I would inquire about your thoughts. I guess I’m being a bit weak and thinking about what I could lose rather than what I could win.

Thanks for your reply anyway. Will.

My thoughts on your question are more or less expressed by this post:

http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/qa/qa-76-stop-waiting-for-better-spots-to-get-your-money-in.html

I don’t think this is a particularly “high variance” play, at least not compared to many other good no-limit plays. If you are playing so high compared to your bankroll that you are constantly thinking about how not to get stacked, I think you should move down or buy in for less in your current games.

I’ve been thinking about this move lately and doing some rough theoretical calculations to help me justify the move as a +EV move in my head.

My question is, as this seems to be a play that what I’m assuming can be quite high variance, I’m just wondering what size bankroll you should have before you incorporate it as a standard part of your strategy?

I’m not sure how to go about calculating something like this or I would do it myself.

Will.

Just my 2 cents.

In the example above, Ed would bet $120 total for a PSR, meaning the villain had to pay $90 into a $180 pot. Whereas you state you would bet $60 for a PSR raise meaning the villain had to pay $30 into a $120 pot.

That’s a big difference in pot odds, which is why you look at the size of your raise as the bet your opponent will be facing. In the above example, your PSR would only be a min raise, which I’m sure you wouldn’t do.