Theres the typical flopping tptk vs a maniac situation of course, but most of the time it seems like youre best case scenario is 60% equity and half the time youre crushed.

Of course flat calling 15% of your stack is always dumb if youre not willing to commit it.

This is why I like pot limit holdem way better, none of this dealing with all in semibluff shove pokerstove equity calculations, you can actually read hands and play multiple streets of poker

Thank you. I can tell you can tell what I was thinking. (multi-leveling thinking, obviously ). Thinking in terms of how I would play my range has been taking a lot of focus from me lately.

Often times when I 3-bet AK in this spot I will just take a half-pot bet on a flop to 2/3s bet on a flop like this. Do you think that’s a bit too small in a vacuum? My thought is that the hands that I want to get value from (hands like JJ, as you mentioned) are unlikely to call a big bet. In fact, I really only feel like my hand has two streets of value when I flop TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot.

I was definitely thinking I would play it to shove the turn as well.

While we are on the topic, say you still have the same SC hand, how would you play it if you flopped merely a flush draw? Do you still shove in a vacuum?

With AK I’d probably like to bet $30 or so to try to extract a call from JJ and similar.

With total air I’d prefer to bet $15 or $20 or so.

If my opponent is clueless, I’d just go ahead and bet my vacuum amounts.

If my opponent is sharper, I have to balance these bet sizes to come up with a uniform size that doesn’t betray my hand. On a flop like this I’d often bet around $20-$25 with most hands. That allows me to bluff out stuff like KJ when I missed, it charges draws at least something (and might encourage them to check-shove against my good hands). And it sets me up to fire another barrel if need be.

If I get called and brick the turn, I shove. They’ll show up with an A a good % of the time and I’ll have to hit a 1/3 shot. But sometimes I’ll fold bigger flush draws and stuff like JJ. Overall I think it’s a good shove.

How would you have played this flop if you had 3-bet pre? Would you open-shove it in a percentage of the time? I’m assuming you’d never check. Whats your plan if you bet the flop, get a call, and the turn bricks?