Comments on: Short Stack Play Is Not A Fight Against The Blinds

By: Seth Baldwin

Seth Baldwin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:38:09 +0000

with 10 BB, what do you think of open shoving from the cutoff with K9o? The blinds represent 15% of your stack and seem well worth picking up against 3 random hands. Is K9 too weak? What’s the right way to calc this? If I assume my oppents will call me with a top 20% hand, then I win the blinds 50% of the time and get at least one caller the other 50%. If we estimate K9 is a 2-1 dog against my opponent’s calling hand, then I’m losing around 3 BB of pot equity when called, so overall a -1.5BB play. Does that seem right?

@Michael, when folded around to the small blind, I don’t think the blinds’ hands are going to be too much different than random cards. People are quite likely to fold A4 and K7 in other positions, so I don’t think deck is especially “rich” just because 7 people mucked their cards.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:10:51 +0000

vb,

no, it wouldn’t. Because all of your opponents have folded the likelihood that the sb and bb will have good hands is higher than it would be in a hu situation. This is called clustering.

The sb and bb do not have two random hands. They have two random hands conditional on 7-8 other players folding.

By: vb_rounder

vb_rounder — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:11:58 +0000

I fairly certain that when it’s folded around to you in the SB and only the BB is behind you, this would be considered heads-up.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:22:04 +0000

Ed,

Your application of the Jam/Fold table (p. 136) in Chen’s book is incorrect. That table only applies in a heads up situation.

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