Comments on: On Getting Stacked

By: Poker Gambit

Poker Gambit — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:44:40 +0000

I was faced w/ the same situation the other night, but folded. Difference was I had 98BB at .10/.25, I raised to $1.40 UTG and third to act raised to $8. I felt comfortable folding here, as a call or re-raise would of led to an All-in situation, which I didn’t feel was right here.

By: Pokerdogg

Pokerdogg — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:20:25 +0000

You may want to check out “Elements of Poker” by Tommy Angelo. He has some good pointers on tilt.

By: Gaston Jeremy

Gaston Jeremy — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:38:18 +0000

I have major problems with getting stacked and steaming in general, now..I have read Ed’s books and this site for a long time including the articles reagrding tilt etc. but I still cant get the tilt factor in control.

I am a winning player in the microstakes but I just can’t control tilt when I have a bad day. I usually go way up in the stakes and lose my entire bank roll in one day – I get *that* furious when I am steaming. The problem is multiple bad beats in a row, I usually dont mind losing if I am behind when the all-in descision is made.

I really wish somebody could give me some advice or some guidance on how I should approach/tackle this problem..this is the single most important thing that is preventing me from moving up in the stakes, that’s why I have been stuck in the microstakes for so long.

By: Shrike

Shrike — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:41:24 +0000

Pokerdogg:

I would make a laydown here about 85% of the time, with a nod to the poker truism of not going broke in an unraised pot. When the SB, whom you’ve described as a solid and somewhat unimaginative player (admittedly in a small sample, but an hour is enough to form some conclusions about a player), 3-bets you on this flop his range has you crushed here. You’re either drawing dead vs. a higher flush or up against a set.

Most live NL1/2 players don’t make insane 3-bet bluffs on a monotone flop.

By: Shrike

Shrike — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:36:09 +0000

dogg,

this looks like an appropriate time to trot out that poker truism: don’t go broke in an unraised pot. When the SB 3-bets you, and you haven’t seen him make any out-of-line moves, the odds are high that his range of hands here has you drawing dead or vulnerable to a re-draw. I’d fold here 90% of the time barring a soul-read of extraordinary certainty.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:50:32 +0000

Don’t stress jamleeco…I appreciated the logic in your first post and have also made the rare all in bluff shove on the river. It’s worked enough that I wouldn’t discount it from my play list, albeit to be used only in the right situations.

By: Pokerdogg

Pokerdogg — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:20:45 +0000

p.s. I should have mentioned I had him covered.

By: Pokerdogg

Pokerdogg — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:18:12 +0000

What a timely article, I am feeling kind of bummed about a hand last night that I got stacked. Would appreciate some comments on this.

1/2NL at the local casino, villian is someone I have not played against before, and have been at the table for about an hour. Haven’t seen him made any moves that’s out of line, seems pretty solid.

7 players limp in, including me on the button with Q7 clubs.

Flop was all clubs, I think Jack high and two rags. SB (Villian) bets $10, BB calls, folded to me I raised to $30.

SB has about $230 behind, he reraised to $100. BB folds. I then shoved. He shows K high flush. Should I have taken the cue and folded, or was this the right move, given he could have a smaller flush, or hit a set? I felt afterwards I should have been able to lay this down, given I had the third nut flush, but, I don’t know.

By: jamleeco

jamleeco — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:45:01 +0000

PS. I guess there’s about a 1% chance you weren’t busting my chops. If that’s the case, disregard last remark. And if so, don’t take it seriously, I’m not upset, just trying to have a little fun back at ya. That really wasn’t a very good post I made. It was just a fond memory of taking an improvement step and seemed to fit.

By: jamleeco

jamleeco — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:39:15 +0000

Uhh, that’s real funny. How did you post under this name? I hope this wasn’t your permanent sign-up name.
I know the joke is because that post might have sounded braggy and as I read back over it I think it did sound that way. But believe me, I didn’t intend it that way. Check my posts, I am a self-confessed idiot.
I was trying to help the OP out who was so upset at getting stacked. I used to be that way.
I realize no1 needs me to tell them how good Ed’s advice is, but even after reading it, it’s not always easy to make yourself follow it in the heat of battle.
So, I’ve been stacked plenty of times over last couple years. And a bunch my first year of nl below breakevenish playing. And the games I play in are easy, I’m not trying to sound like I’m Leatherass or something.
My point was I know it’s hard to acclimate to that, especially if you come from a limit background like myself. Just trying to add some encouragement to the op. Sometimes even when you get stacked and look like or feel like an idiot ,it can really help you out in unexpected ways and especially mental and emotional conditioning.
In closing, if my post sounded like a brag like “look what I did” I apologize. Try and cut me a little slack, i’ve made a thousand post about look what an idiot i was or I chickened out here and feel like crap.

I left a message on your answering machine, call me back at 1-877-KISSMYASS.