Comments on: Moving Up: Beyond Winrate And Bankroll – Part 3: River Bluffing

By: IDK

IDK — Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:14:15 +0000

afraid to be wrong about suicide bets, wont comment. relevent?

By: SleepingCell

SleepingCell — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:06:32 +0000

After explaining the last example in this article, flop: K95 with two diamonds and the turn and river as 7c and 6h, you write: “In a recent Stoxpoker video, coach Hunter Bick played a hand like this one and successfully bluff-raised the river when he noticed that his opponent’s play just didn’t add up.”

While this example conveys the point you are trying to make very well, I don’t think it is a good idea to bluff-raise here if your opponent is capable of analyzing the action. It just doesn’t add up that we have an 8 either. With what hand were we chasing him all the way that included an 8? His play is consistent with AK or KK. Many players, especially at small stake NLH, keep on hammering with any of these hands, especially with KK, and they don’t care what comes next. So, if you cannot beat at least an AK, then you shouldn’t call and definitely shouldn’t bluff-raise.

By: Todd

Todd — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:43:40 +0000

I pick off more than my fair share of river bluffs, but I don’t rebluff all that often, well, ok, I can’t think of a spot where I’ve ever done it. How big a part of your game is that?

By: JJS

JJS — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:07:36 +0000

I like this series Ed. It fits in very well with your “When do I know I’m awesome” article.

There are no cookbook formulas, like “win rate” in poker for example, that tell you if you really know a subject. That knowledge, as you point out, has to come from within.

This is true not just for poker but probably for everything that is worth doing. I know this because I reached this point at my job. There is one job at my workplace that requires some real mathematics; I mean linear algebra and vector calculus. Even engineers tend to shy away from that level of mathematics.

I decided to step up and try it. At first it was difficult and confusing, but after a while the understanding comes; little by little, first one thing, then another, then another…

Then there came a time when I knew I was Awesome!

It’s a good bit of work to get there, but it’s definitely worth it.