Comments on: Don’t Overdo Overlimping

By: Ed Miller

Ed Miller — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:41:58 +0000

mirio,

Yes, this reopens the betting since it’s more than a full raise. Since 150 is the bet size in this hand, any bet bigger than 450 (300 + 150) reopens the betting.

By: mirio

mirio — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:40:12 +0000

i have a question about what happened in a game i played last night !
a player bet 150 the next player bet 300 the next called the 300 and the next called 300
the original better went all in for 480
does this bet re-open the betting for all player
or his bet should be 300+300 ?
thank you we had all different opinions on the matter!
mirio

By: tim tom

tim tom — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:10:10 +0000

“Nearly everyone will call. This situation is somewhat similar to playing the limped pot, except that the small edges you could exploit in a limped pot become larger edges in this scenario. Since the preflop pot is significantly larger, preflop hand strength takes on more importance. And you now make much more money from betting better than your opponents because the pot and bets will be much bigger. Whatever your edge was worth in a $30 limped pot, it will be worth significantly more in a $150 raised pot. The more money that’s at risk, the bigger your potential edges are worth.”

By: AKQJ10

AKQJ10 — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:23:35 +0000

As usual I get the theory, but I'm not sure I'm applying it right. I posted a recent live $1-2 hand where I tried raising JTs on the button and got four callers. I'd love feedback about how that fits in with Ed's article.

By: karbyn

karbyn — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:02:50 +0000

Last night, I made this play 3 times from the blinds alone, 1/2 live, 10 handed.
First time I had QQ against 6 limpers. 1 caller to the river. He had second pair.
Second, I had AQ and took it with a c-bet.
Third time, I had 97o ( although I had decided to do it again before looking ) against *7* limpers. 7 folds. LOL

By: Parker

Parker — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:09:00 +0000

I play in games like this quite a bit.

I wholeheartedly agree with your article if you are playing with capable players with decent hand reading skills after the flop.

I wholly disagree with your article if you are playing with people who will chase weak draws too often or who overvalue one pair or two pair hands.

In poker made simple, one of your 7 tips was “Don’t over-commit in small pots.” When you play with players who violate this rule fairly often and will stack off on relatively weak holdings, I see no problem over-limping a wide variety of hands that could flop or turn monsters.

By: Jim Cheseborough

Jim Cheseborough — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:06:08 +0000

Thanks Ed,
This is great information. I play a LOT of games in which I tend to overlimp and not think much about it. Now I will!

Have you been playing live in Vegas much?
I’d like to see you at a table soon.

Jim