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By: nojoker

nojoker — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:34:11 +0000

For 5. what about the club flush? I count 24 outs plus the ace of spades for the tie.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:33:12 +0000

Great Work, Toonces. I couldn’t solve one single task as good as you but I guess you’ve missed something on example 5. The “drawing hand” also has a clubs flush draw. Plus an Ace would split the pot, right?

Means he has 5 more outs to win I guess.

By: AKQJ10

AKQJ10 — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:49:04 +0000

Incidentally, a dealer friend from 2+2 asked me this brain-teaser that’s good to practice Omaha board reading, even though it involves thinking about situations that won’t come up in everyday play:

9-3-3-3 suited once can make the nut high three different ways in Omaha. How?

By: AKQJ10

AKQJ10 — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:46:41 +0000

Oops, I’m already pretty sure I forgot to count one of the ranks in #3, I think the tens. So I was three short.

I think in Toonces’ answer to #5 there are some club outs that didn’t get counted — by my count, the 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, (not the 9!) 10, K, and A.

Also, the ace of spades is an out to tie, because we both make aces and jacks with a 9.

I love double-flush draws in Omaha. I don’t love four pair.

By: angle_slam

angle_slam — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:18:07 +0000

1. Currently losing to AA77Q
Outs are:
2 8’s = trip 8’s
4 6’s = 8-high straight
2 7’s = full house 7’s over 8’s (villian has 777AQ)
TOTAL OUTS = 8

Actually, the 6 would give a 9 high straight. Otherwise correct.

5. Currently losing to JJ99A
Outs are:
8 hearts = Nut flush
3 K’s (not hearts) = A-high straight
2 Q’s (not hearts) = better 2-pair
3 T’s = better 2-pair
3 8’s (not hearts) = Q-high straight
TOTAL OUTS = 19

Opponent doesn’t have JJ99A, he has JJ996
K doesn’t give Hero a straight.
An A splits the pot (AAJJ9)

By: Toonces

Toonces — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:19:59 +0000

I’ll give this a try:

1. Currently losing to AA77Q
Outs are:
2 8’s = trip 8’s
4 6’s = 8-high straight
2 7’s = full house 7’s over 8’s (villian has 777AQ)
TOTAL OUTS = 8

2. Currently losing to a diamond flush
Outs are:
2 6’s = FH 6’s over A’s
2 A’s = FH A’s over 6’s
(Q doesn’t help)
TOTAL OUTS = 4

3. Currently losing to 8-high straight
Outs are:
9 clubs = club flush
2 5’s (not clubs) = 9-high straight
1 6 (not clubs) = 10-high straight
2 9’s (not clubs) = 10-high straight
3 10’s = 10-high straight
3 J’s (not clubs) = J-high straight
TOTAL OUTS = 20

4. Currently losing to pair of 6’s
Outs are:
3 2’s (not spades) = 6-high straight
3 3’s (not spades) = 7-high straight
2 4’s (not spades) = trip 4’s
TOTAL OUTS = 8

5. Currently losing to JJ99A
Outs are:
8 hearts = Nut flush
3 K’s (not hearts) = A-high straight
2 Q’s (not hearts) = better 2-pair
3 T’s = better 2-pair
3 8’s (not hearts) = Q-high straight
TOTAL OUTS = 19

By: AKQJ10

AKQJ10 — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:26:01 +0000

OK, this being Omaha, I had to double and triple check.

1. Four. Two 8s for 8s full; two 6s for a straight.

2. Four. Two As and two 6s for a full house. We cannot make a flush because we have only one diamond. We cannot make queens full because we’d have trip queens but could only play one more card off the board, and nothing else pairs our hand.

3. 17. Nine clubs make a flush. Two non-club 5s make a 9-high straight (playing 9-6 out of our hand). The six of hearts makes a 10-high straight (playing T-9). Two non-club 9s also make a 10-high straight (playing T-6). Three non-club Js make a queen-high straight (playing T-9).

That wrap with flush redraw tired me out, so I’ll get to the rest later!