Comments on: Beat The Rake http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html Training poker players into professional players Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:36:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: toebori http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15492 toebori Wed, 27 May 2009 19:41:43 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15492 i'm in the "dog house" at my local casinos but i cannot afford to tip a dealer $1 every hand at 1-2 or 2-5 live and keep playing. the economy has my income down from other sources (like to zero)and frankly, as far as i'm concerned a dealer does not deserve $25+ per hour. i do still tip but not like an atm. as a grinder that saves me a couple hundred a month. when the money was flowing a couple years ago i wouldn't consider such a tactic but times are tuff. other players give me a hard time but i'll decide how much and when to tip for myself. toebori i’m in the “dog house” at my local casinos but i cannot afford to tip a dealer $1 every hand at 1-2 or 2-5 live and keep playing. the economy has my income down from other sources (like to zero)and frankly, as far as i’m concerned a dealer does not deserve $25+ per hour. i do still tip but not like an atm.

as a grinder that saves me a couple hundred a month. when the money was flowing a couple years ago i wouldn’t consider such a tactic but times are tuff. other players give me a hard time but i’ll decide how much and when to tip for myself.

toebori

]]> By: blood http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15380 blood Sat, 09 May 2009 17:37:08 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15380 ... all the more reason why online is the way to play. :) … all the more reason why online is the way to play. :)

]]> By: warlockjd http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15378 warlockjd Sat, 09 May 2009 10:36:13 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15378 Welcome to Sarasota, where there is a 10% rake capped at $5, a $1 bad beat jackpot, plus a $1 'promotions jackpot' drop. Add $1 tip per pot and we're talking $8/hand. Max buyin at $1/2NL is $60. The big game $2/3NL has a max buyin of $100. All of the jackpots are, of course, prejudiced towards the $2 straight players ($2 preflop, turn, river, 4 max bets per street). I don't think Sklansky or Miller could beat this last game (same rake). Welcome to Sarasota, where there is a 10% rake capped at $5, a $1 bad beat jackpot, plus a $1 ‘promotions jackpot’ drop. Add $1 tip per pot and we’re talking $8/hand.

Max buyin at $1/2NL is $60. The big game $2/3NL has a max buyin of $100.

All of the jackpots are, of course, prejudiced towards the $2 straight players ($2 preflop, turn, river, 4 max bets per street). I don’t think Sklansky or Miller could beat this last game (same rake).

]]> By: Strangefish http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15369 Strangefish Wed, 06 May 2009 01:00:25 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15369 Welcome to Australia where the standard charge on a 1-2NL game is %10 of the pot capped at $6 AND $5 per player per hour. Oh, and in Sydney the buy in is capped at $100. The $5-$5 game has a capped buy in of $500, rake capped at $10 and a $10 per hour per player time charge. And tipping the dealers is illegal so there is no incentive for them to deal quickly... Welcome to Australia where the standard charge on a 1-2NL game is %10 of the pot capped at $6 AND $5 per player per hour. Oh, and in Sydney the buy in is capped at $100. The $5-$5 game has a capped buy in of $500, rake capped at $10 and a $10 per hour per player time charge. And tipping the dealers is illegal so there is no incentive for them to deal quickly…

]]> By: JJS http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15367 JJS Wed, 06 May 2009 00:19:47 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15367 >"After doing some research it seems that a realistic winrate would be about $6 profit per 100 hands in a $1-$2 game." As I understand it, the (roughly) 2BB/100 or 3BB/100 win rate estimates are win rates -after- the rake, not before it. So if the time charge is only a little worse than the rake, then you can still have a positive win rate. >”After doing some research it seems that a realistic winrate would be about $6 profit per 100 hands in a $1-$2 game.”

As I understand it, the (roughly) 2BB/100 or 3BB/100 win rate estimates are win rates -after- the rake, not before it. So if the time charge is only a little worse than the rake, then you can still have a positive win rate.

]]> By: Jeff D http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/beat-the-rake.html/comment-page-1#comment-15362 Jeff D Tue, 05 May 2009 20:42:23 +0000 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/?p=836#comment-15362 I'm pretty sure that once upon a time Foxwoods charged a seat charge AND took a rake, though now at least in the $1/$2 NL games it's just the rake. I’m pretty sure that once upon a time Foxwoods charged a seat charge AND took a rake, though now at least in the $1/$2 NL games it’s just the rake.

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