Comments on: Avoid Adjustment Tilt

By: Todd

Todd — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:34:54 +0000

Thanks Threads. I’ll take a look at that book.

Tommy’s article is really good. It’s one of of those articles that really got me thinking about poker in a different way. As always credit goes to Ed for posting about Tommy and tiltless.com 6 months ago or so.

By: threads13

threads13 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:31:50 +0000

Todd,

Thanks for the link. That article is very interesting!

By: threads13

threads13 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:06:40 +0000

Todd,

John Freeney wrote “Inside the Poker Mind.” You should check it out. I think you would enjoy it.

By: Shrike

Shrike — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:24:29 +0000

… because it’s more likely to be called than an all-in?

By: Brian Morin

Brian Morin — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:04:55 +0000

Why didn’t you go all-in on the river? Why does $125 figure to be a more profitable bet than all-in?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:27:39 +0000

the small blind raised to $10? I had to reread this to see what the stakes were. What a jopke. After limping K6o which seems ok on the button, how can hero not call the minraise!?
As a question to NL players: What sized raise will make folding a junky hand correct in this situation? i.e. what is the maximum X such that stacks are 100BB’s, SB raises to X, 3 limpers call, and hero should call?

By: Todd

Todd — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:24:05 +0000

Threads,

I’m not sure who John Freeney is, so he may well have said it first. I’m aware of it from Tommy Angelo’s reciprocality treatise:

http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/reciprocality.htm

Wherever it comes from, Tommy’s piece is terrific. I believe he has a book coming out soon that builds off that essay. I’m really looking forward to it.

By: Ed Miller

Ed Miller — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:31:10 +0000

Bad Lobster,

1. Obvious K6o isn’t a great hand. But when you have position and the preflop bet is only a small percentage of your stack, preflop hand values become a bit more fluid. In particular, if you read hands significantly better than your opponents do, you can make some weakish hands profitable. It really comes down to hand reading. If you can read your opponents’ hands, and they have trouble reading yours, then you have a big advantage, and it’s not such a big deal if you start with something a bit junky.

2. Perhaps “tilt” is devalued. But to me it’s a lot more important to discuss the subtle forms of “tilt” or “being off” if you prefer than the lights-flashing variety. It’s fairly obvious if you or your opponents’ heads are about to explode. It’s not so obvious if you just have some negative thought patterns that haven’t hurt you yet but might cause you to screw up a hand in the future. I personally never get to lights-flashing level basically ever, but sometimes I do catch myself focusing too much and in an unproductive way on one particular player.

If you’d like to call it something other than tilt, that’s fine.

By: threads13

threads13 — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:09:03 +0000

Todd,

I thought this is the John Freeney definition of tilt? I could be wrong about who came up with it first, or who printed it first, or whatever.

By: Todd

Todd — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:03:11 +0000

I think Ed goes by the Tommy Angelo definition of tilt. Any time you are playing less than your A game you are tilted in some form. Whomever tilts least, wins most.

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1. What were you doing playing K-6 offsuit? I wouldn’t play those cards under any circumstances short of a freeroll.
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I played (and raised) looser preflop in position, and I challenged for more pots on the flop and turn.
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I think he was playing his position, not his cards.