This series is intended to be simple, and my simple advice for weak suited aces up front is to fold them. The advice in NLHTAP is considerably more nuanced, and you’ll probably find several places where these articles don’t “gel” with something in there.

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Ciaffone’s 5-10 rule is for when you have excellent position, either absolute or relative position in a multiway pot. Not when you are heads up out of position. Reread the passage. Moreover, I am pretty sure Flynn and Mehta will recommend and 3/8 rule or something significantly less than 5/10.

If you play against the same foes day after day, to mix up your play, it is OK to occasionally open limp and/or open raise suited connectors and suited aces. But this is primarily for metagame purposes, as opposed to hand value.

I would personally recommend 25% open limp, 25% open raise, and 50% open fold with these hands vs regular foes. In other words, pick 2 suits for the day. Raise with 1. Limp with the other. Fold the other 2 suits when it comes opening the pot with suited aces and suited connectors. Or do it with your watch. First 15 seconds of the minute, raise. 2nd 15 seconds, limp. Last 30, fold. Or divide the table into quadrants (suit for each corner) and do it by where the button is and/or your seat position.

Guess what, it doesn’t work for 100xBB stacks and typical aggressive players who continuation bet the flop when checked to 90% of the time.

Perhaps Doyle got more free cards back in the day because people c-bet less. More likely, Doyle was playing 200BB+ stacks, and “had more time” to let the hand develop. Plus, he had enough chips to bluff/represent the board when he didn’t have it since he was known to play these hands.

Anyway, Ed’s advice is solid for 100xBB stacks.

(It’s quite similar to the shift from loose limit games to tighter and more aggressive short handed games.)

What you’ve described is, I think, a big hurdle for many limit players who are coming to no-limit. I experienced it myself. I was used to playing limit up to $40-$80 regularly with multi-hundred dollar pots every hand. But when I first switched to $1-$2 no-limit, I jealously guarded my $100 stack and was strangely afraid of losing it. It seemed silly that I thought losing $300 in limit was no big deal, but losing “my stack” of $100 in no-limit was scary.

It’s a very worthwhile topic and I’ll make sure to write about it soon. Thanks.

If I could wish for one step that I’d like to see it’s this: “To Fear Or Not To Fear?”

What I mean by that is this:
The guys in my local game play very loose and rather passive, just as you described. Even when I play only quality starting hands I very often find myself in situations where I wonder if one of the others made an incredible “hit” to virtually unpredictable starting hands. Say J7s made 2 pair over my KK; gutshots kill my sets on the river; you name it.

Coming from LHE I am not used to losing BIG in just one hand. So now I often wonder if I should be making large bets on the flop/river to cut their odds while I might be running into better (flopped) hands and not know it until it’s too late. I think I know a scary flop when I see it, but with these loose guys “every” flop might have hit them.

I know that I play way better starting hands, so my current weak-tight style makes me fold a lot of hands (out of fear) that actually would have won at the end. Unfortunately many times when I switch from weak to fearless I run into these crazy hands.

What must I change (and how???):
- my mindset/expectations?
- my style?

Thanks Ed!